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    • lalalandsynthL
      lalalandsynth
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      Next up, amps15925745887971282058599446698799.jpg

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      • lalalandsynthL
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        Then i need to figure out how to impulse mics15925746760966473965868109814070.jpg
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        • LindonL
          Lindon @lalalandsynth
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          @lalalandsynth just stop now OK, I already decided I had gone off you because of all the stuff in the first set of pictures - the Crane Song stuff especially... but now the amps and mics? In a minute you'll post a picture of an early Rick 360 and I will never talk to you again... ☺

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          • lalalandsynthL
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            Lol, i will see if i can find one , there is a whole wall of guitars and bass here ;)

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            • LindonL
              Lindon @lalalandsynth
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              @lalalandsynth is this YOUR studio?

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              • lalalandsynthL
                lalalandsynth @Lindon
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                @Lindon No, not my studio ,but I own a lot of the synths there.
                I have a synth repair and sales shop in a room in the studio.

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                • LindonL
                  Lindon @lalalandsynth
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                  @lalalandsynth ok well I'm very slightly less envious then...☺

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                  • lalalandsynthL
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                    Must collect them all!
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                    • lalalandsynthL
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                      So am capturing the EMT 244 today . it does have quite a bit of low end hums and noise , any thoughts on how to deal with that kind of thing , as it is the noise would be added to the impulse.

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                        tomekslesicki @lalalandsynth
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                        @lalalandsynth That's a super-nice studio! Regarding the noise from the EMT - you might want to capture a bit of that after the sweep and noise reduce the impulse in RX.

                        And when it comes to mics, this might be of interest to you: http://micirp.blogspot.com/p/about-micirp.html :-)

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                        • lalalandsynthL
                          lalalandsynth
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                          Looks like i am getting some aliasing ?
                          I should have tested a longer impulse to see if there was less aliasing , just to be sure , dont know if that would change anything ? Having said that , if aliasing is part of the sound then so be it :)

                          This impulse is from the EMT 246 which really only goes to 12k (probably contributes to how nice it sounds) and the "aliasing" is pretty clear.
                          Aliasing.jpg

                          Also wondering if I should normalize impulses before deconvolving or if I should normalize the resulting impulse , guess I need to do some tests.

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                          • lalalandsynthL
                            lalalandsynth
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                            Couple of questions .

                            1. What is the max length of an impulse in the convolution Reberb ?

                            2. I know "UseBackgroundThread if true , then the convolution will be executed on a background thread." but what does that mean in practice ?

                            3. is it possible somehow to set the gain pre impulse ? Pre-preset .
                              So not on the convolution reverb gui but maybe via some sort of scripting ?

                            4. When using a Tick/sample to make an impulse of a static setting , after deconvolving it just sounds like a phase mess when mixed with the dry signal, what are the techniques to get this right ...I guess I would need to measure the recording latency ?

                            Suggestion , it would be nice to have a setting that could offset the start of the impulse. to remove predelay if needed , rather then having to edit the predelay out of the impulse.

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                            • lalalandsynthL
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                              Ok, after editing impulses all day I am having thoughts about levels and normalizing.

                              After looking at impulses from waves IR-1 for example , they are all normalized and quite a few of them clip when set to 100% wet.

                              I also noticed then when my sweep file is peaking at -3 dB and then I deconvolve , the resulting impulse is at -29db.
                              I am assuming this is normal after deconvolving but it means I definitely need to normalize.
                              Using the impulse untouched in an impulse reverb and it way too low.

                              I guess normalize and then set all impulses to -3 to -6 ?

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                              • lalalandsynthL
                                lalalandsynth
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                                Does anyone have experience of taking "static" impulses , like speakers , eq's etc ?

                                I did try a couple of those but had massive phase issues when blending with dry signal.
                                What procedure should one use to capture the impulse and maintain phase coherence ?

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                                • hisefiloH
                                  hisefilo @lalalandsynth
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                                  this is what I'm using, if it helps.

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                                  • lalalandsynthL
                                    lalalandsynth
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                                    Are you using this for a static impulse, rather then reverb and such ?

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                                    • hisefiloH
                                      hisefilo @lalalandsynth
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                                      @lalalandsynth I just opened and last thing I did remains there. It's a reverb impulse if remember correctly (a test in my room)

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                                      • NatanN
                                        Natan
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                                        @lalalandsynth said in Capturing Impulses...software, techniques.:

                                        What is the max length of an impulse in the convolution Reberb ?

                                        Did anyone get an Answer For This?
                                        @Christoph-Hart

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                                        • Christoph HartC
                                          Christoph Hart
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                                          There's no artificial limit (it throws an assertion for impulses > 20 seconds, but that's just in debug mode), so the limit is your CPU.

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