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    • SteveRiggs
      SteveRiggs last edited by

      Would it be possible to have a couple of extra speeds added to all of the tempo-synced LFOs? (and maybe the delay module)

      2 bars and 4 bars would be especially useful.

      Maybe even some cool polyrhythms like:

      3/8
      5/16
      3/16
      1.5 bars
      3 bars

      ...or even triplets could be good if you wanted to really go to town 🤣

      1/3
      1/6
      1/12
      1/24

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      • ulrik
        ulrik @SteveRiggs last edited by ulrik

        @SteveRiggs it's possible to do that via scripting, if you have the LFO NOT set to "Tempo Sync" you can use this:

        LFOModulator1.setAttribute(0, Engine.getHostBpm()/60 / rhythm);
        

        where the variabel "rhythm" is what kind of rhythm you want, so for an eight note the rhythm variable will be half a quarter, ie rhythm = 1/2
        the

        Engine.getHostBpm()/60 
        

        will set the LFO freq to 1Hz if the global tempo is 60, that would be every quarter note, and if the global tempo is 120 the freq will be 2Hz and so on
        so I think it's possible to setup whatever complex rhythm you want

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        • ulrik
          ulrik @ulrik last edited by

          @SteveRiggs a small example

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            clumsybear @ulrik last edited by

            @ulrik said in *Feature Request* Extra tempo synced speeds for modulation:

            @SteveRiggs a small example

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            great, I was wondering about that as well.

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            • ulrik
              ulrik @clumsybear last edited by

              @clumsybear @SteveRiggs
              However maybe you need to get the hostBpm from the NoteOn CB or set a timerCallback, if you have tempo changes in the host

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              • SteveRiggs
                SteveRiggs @ulrik last edited by SteveRiggs

                @ulrik Thanks, man. I thought there would be a way with arrays and halving the values.

                It would be a lot less time consuming if they were already in options though to just select. I have 1 project that I'm toying with which has 12 different LFOs, so that would be a lot of unnecessary code to link all of those.

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                • Christoph Hart
                  Christoph Hart last edited by

                  Yeah the problem is that it there is a index to tempo sync value and I can't add new ones without breaking old projects. But triplets and duets are already included.

                  The core.tempo_sync node in scriptnode has a multiplier value, which should get you to almost every imaginable sync value (eg. 3/8 can be done with selecting 1/8, then set the multiplier to 3).

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                  • SteveRiggs
                    SteveRiggs @Christoph Hart last edited by

                    @Christoph-Hart Ah no problem. That makes sense.

                    I'll have a look at the scriptnode way. What is the LFO node called? I haven't spotted one so far.

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                    • ustk
                      ustk @SteveRiggs last edited by

                      @SteveRiggs You have to use the oscillator followed by a sig2mod node

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                        SteveRiggs @ustk last edited by

                        @ustk Thanks man. I'll give that a try 🙂

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                        • ustk
                          ustk @SteveRiggs last edited by

                          @SteveRiggs If you're using a scriptnode synthesiser, you can also use the core.hise_mod, which is connected to the Pitch, Extra1 and Extra2 modulation tabs of the synth module

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                            LeeC @ulrik last edited by LeeC

                            Hey @ulrik,

                            Really nice snippet that you've put together here.

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                            It might actually be a good work around for the temposync issues that I'm currently facing using scriptnode ( https://forum.hise.audio/topic/2120/flanger-in-scriptnode/17)

                            One quick question.
                            How did you go about getting the actual hostBPM from the host in your example, instead of simulating the Host using a slider?

                            Appreciate your insight ☺

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                              d.healey @LeeC last edited by

                              @LeeC I haven't looked at the code, but I would guess Engine.getHostBmp();

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                                ulrik @LeeC last edited by

                                @LeeC as David said "Engine.getHostBmp();"

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                                  LeeC @d.healey last edited by LeeC

                                  Thanks @ulrik and @d-healey 😊

                                  More specifically, the question was how do we get a change in BPM within a DAW to trigger an action in HISE using code?

                                  I guess, I was expecting there to be some kind of call back function.

                                  Thanks again

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                                    ulrik @LeeC last edited by ulrik

                                    @LeeC I guess you have to use a timer that continuous checks the host tempo

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                                      LeeC @ulrik last edited by LeeC

                                      @ulrik ok thanks.

                                      Any thoughts on how frequently to call Engine.getHostBmp(); using a timer?

                                      Also, will this method eat up unnecessary CPU?

                                      Thanks again 😊

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                                        ulrik @LeeC last edited by ulrik

                                        @LeeC I don't think the timer will eat up much cpu, but maybe some more qualified can answer that.
                                        I think you should try to set up a test plugin and run it in your host, you could even make button and a slider in your plugin, slider to change the timer freq and a button to restart it.

                                        I'm just speculating now but maybe the code
                                        "Engine.getHostBmp();"
                                        will check the host continuous already? or maybe when the host change tempo it spits out the information the plugin will respond immediately, I don't know?
                                        Maybe some with more knowledge can chime in?

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                                        • d.healey
                                          d.healey last edited by

                                          I think the timer is the only option at the moment. If would be nice to see some host callbacks for bpm and transport states @Christoph-Hart 😉

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                                          • ulrik
                                            ulrik @d.healey last edited by

                                            @d-healey but what about all modulators "Tempo Sync", they follow if the host change tempo, so there must be some inbuilt function there?

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