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    • DanHD
      DanH @ustk
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      @ustk said in Using custom preset system - as in the actual presets themselves, not a browser:

      that's what I do a lot in the things I've worked on

      of course 😆 Ok I'm obviously passing the data in wrong. Will take another look...

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      • DanHD
        DanH @DanH
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        @ustk ok got it working. Is it possible to update the .preset file without using Engine.saveUserPreset ?

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        • ustkU
          ustk @DanH
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          @DanH Yeah that's where the biggest job resides.
          might doable with some XML parsing, and save as XML but the object might live as strings that are difficult to read/write. I won't be able to make tests within the next days so...

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          • DanHD
            DanH @ustk
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            @ustk I think it's too risky. One mistake in a preset file and it doesn't load.

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            • David HealeyD
              David Healey @DanH
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              @DanH what about with HISE's xml parser?

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              • DanHD
                DanH @David Healey
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                @David-Healey don't know anything about it

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                • David HealeyD
                  David Healey @DanH
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                  @DanH These two

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                  • ustkU
                    ustk @David Healey
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                    @David-Healey I tried in during my testing and even if I could make it work, the parsing of an array that contains strings is bad bad bad. You need to rework the result to remove the escape char and other things.
                    This might just be normal, but then what about rewriting it back? Might work, might be risky, this I'm not sure until further testing it

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                    • OrvillainO
                      Orvillain @DanH
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                      @DanH said in Using custom preset system - as in the actual presets themselves, not a browser:

                      @ustk ok got it working. Is it possible to update the .preset file without using Engine.saveUserPreset ?

                      Why do you want to do this?

                      I'm doing this when I save my custom fx chain format:

                      inline function saveFXChainPreset() {
                              FileSystem.browse(FileSystem.getFolder(FileSystem.UserPresets), true, "*.fxchain", function (f) {
                                  if (!isDefined(f) || f == 0) return;
                      
                                  PluginSharedData.presetMode = "FXChain";
                      
                                  // Get the data object directly from our custom save logic
                                  var data = PluginUserPresetHandling.onPresetSave();
                                  f.writeObject(data);
                              });
                          }
                      

                      the key being setup a file reference, and then call f.writeObject(blahblah) on it.

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                      • DanHD
                        DanH @Orvillain
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                        @Orvillain said in Using custom preset system - as in the actual presets themselves, not a browser:

                        Why do you want to do this?

                        Because it kills voices and I want to silently update some metadata like tags and author for presets.

                        But.... your method seems to be working!!! I feel like I'm going to have to remove certain characters in case it messes up the preset code....

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                        • OrvillainO
                          Orvillain
                          last edited by Orvillain

                          @Christoph-Hart

                          It's like this ..... I have an external arppegiator triggering my synth... I click my left/right arrows to change preset.... and because I use a custom data model, I have to tap into the pre/post callbacks.... so here's what I get:

                          synth notes triggering.... click the arrow....
                          Interface: preLoadCallback triggered - no synth notes triggering when this is running
                          Interface: onPresetLoad triggered - no synth notes triggering when this is running
                          Once the onPresetLoad method is finished, a midi note does sneak through into the synth....

                          Then this callback fires:
                          Interface: postLoadCallback triggered
                          This kills the previous notes, and triggers the new ones.....

                          Here is my full loadGlobalPreset method:

                          inline function loadGlobalPreset(obj) {
                                  local samplemaps = obj.samplemaps;
                                  local wavetables = obj.wavetables;
                                  local params = obj.parameters;
                                  local fxSelections = obj.fxSelections;
                                  local fxChainOrder = obj.fxChainOrder;
                          
                                  lastLoadParams = params;
                          
                                  // Restore samplemaps
                                  UISoundSelector.syncSamplerMenu(1, samplemaps[0]);
                                  UISoundSelector.syncSamplerMenu(2, samplemaps[1]);
                                  UISoundSelector.syncSamplerMenu(3, samplemaps[2]);
                          
                                  // Restore wavetables
                                  UISoundSelector.syncSynthMenu(1, wavetables[0]);
                                  UISoundSelector.syncSynthMenu(2, wavetables[1]);
                                  UISoundSelector.syncSynthMenu(3, wavetables[2]);
                          
                                  // Update all UI parameters - except the ones that are not tagged as saveInPreset
                                  UserPresetHandler.updateSaveInPresetComponents(params);
                          
                                  // TODO: Restore custom samples
                          
                                  // Fix-up FX menus by stable id, but only when they differ
                                  if (isDefined(fxSelections)) {
                                      for (i = 0; i < fxSelections.length; i++) {
                                          local sel = fxSelections[i];
                                          if (!isDefined(sel) || !isDefined(sel.id)) continue;
                          
                                          local targetId = (isDefined(sel.idName) && sel.idName != "") ? sel.idName : "empty";
                          
                                          local menu = Content.getComponent(sel.id);
                                          if (!isDefined(menu)) continue;
                          
                                          // what saveInPreset restored (by index)
                                          local currentId = UIEffectDropDownMenu.getIdForIndex(menu.getValue());
                                          if (currentId == undefined) currentId = "empty";
                          
                                          // only fire callback if mismatch
                                          if (currentId != targetId)
                                              UIEffectDropDownMenu.setMenuToId(sel.id, targetId, true);
                                      }
                                  }
                          
                                  // Restore FX chain ordering (pageKey -> [4 slots])
                                  if (isDefined(fxChainOrder)) {
                                      for (k in fxOrderKeys) {
                                          local key = fxOrderKeys[k];
                                          local saved = fxChainOrder[key];
                          
                                          // expect an array of length 4 with unique 0..3
                                          if (!isDefined(saved) || saved.length != 4) continue;
                          
                                          UIEffectReordering.pageOrder[key] = saved;          // update UI state
                                          UIEffectReordering.applyVisualOrder(key);           // move panels
                                          PluginEffectReorder.apply(key, saved);              // set DSP chain
                                      }
                                  }
                          
                                  // Update all UI parameters - except the ones that are not tagged as saveInPreset
                                  //UserPresetHandler.updateSaveInPresetComponents(params);
                              }
                          

                          It is doing quite a lot... and ultimately what happens is when I switch a preset, I get one voice that sounds one way... and then another voice that sounds completely different... like a voice is being allowed to be triggered before the preset is fully loaded.

                          It seems to be something related to my effect menus and/or effect re-ordering.

                          It is hard to explain. Might have to make a video. But any immediate thoughts??

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