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    • DanHD
      DanH @Christoph Hart
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      @Christoph-Hart Nice, thank you! So I need to test more but I'm having to click a source button twice or more to get the draggers to stick after a compile. I'll test some more tomorrow.

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      • DanHD
        DanH @Christoph Hart
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        @Christoph-Hart So I'm not convinced that the accumulated range is helpful / necessary. 11 years of using Serum almost every day and I never sought to know what accumulated range would look like. You often only modulate a parameter with one source, and if you add more sources then I think you accept that there are limitations to what can be displayed.

        Having said that if people find the accumulated range useful then crack on, but would it be possible to remove the 'off' state of the source select buttons if desired? i.e a source button has to be 'active' at all times

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        • Christoph HartC
          Christoph Hart @DanH
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          @DanH sure, this could be simply a property of the floating tile then, no?

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          • DanHD
            DanH @Christoph Hart
            last edited by

            @Christoph-Hart perfect!

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            • DanHD
              DanH @DanH
              last edited by DanH

              @Christoph-Hart so with the singleDragger method the dragger knob's label will appear on hover when hovering in it's location, rather than the label only appearing when hovering over the dragger itself. I've drawn the label well away from the dragger in the example below but you can see the label appear on mouse hover:

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              • DanHD
                DanH @DanH
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                @Christoph-Hart So in my project I get a straight crash when clicking the 'Add' button in the ModulationMatrixControler floating tile. A simple project is fine.

                I've removed all styling scripts for any modulation floating tiles, knobs etc - anything that interacts with the mod matrix. I've removed all global modulators. I'll keep removing things to see if I can find the source of the crash but in case you have a second to look at the crash report below you might be able to suggest something more specific for me to look at... πŸ™ The crash is identical each time and has been happening on UI elements too from time to time.

                Thread 0 Crashed:: JUCE Message Thread Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
                0   HISE-5.9                      	       0x100627204 hise::MatrixIds::Helpers::IntensityTextConverter::IntensityTextConverter(hise::MatrixIds::Helpers::IntensityTextConverter::ConstructData const&) + 80
                1   HISE-5.9                      	       0x1007d8b38 hise::MatrixBase::RowBase::updateIntensityConverter() + 1252
                2   HISE-5.9                      	       0x1007d67ac hise::MatrixContent::Row::updateValue(juce::Identifier const&, juce::var const&) + 676
                3   HISE-5.9                      	       0x10167e3ac hise::valuetree::PropertyListener::handleAsyncUpdate() + 196
                

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                • Christoph HartC
                  Christoph Hart @DanH
                  last edited by

                  @DanH Hmm, I can't spot anything obvious. If you can dumb it down to a pasteable snippet that reproduce the crash it should be pretty easy to fix.

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                  • DanHD
                    DanH @Christoph Hart
                    last edited by DanH

                    @Christoph-Hart ok will give that a go, thanks.

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                    • DanHD
                      DanH @Christoph Hart
                      last edited by

                      @Christoph-Hart Stripped back the project to bare bones - just a few ui elements. Have emailed you link to the project. Many thanks for looking if you find time πŸ™

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                      • Christoph HartC
                        Christoph Hart @DanH
                        last edited by

                        @DanH yup I could reproduce the crash - the fix was trivial, but I'm not sure if it also fixes the actual project, so feel free to check it out.

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                        • DanHD
                          DanH @Christoph Hart
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                          @Christoph-Hart ah lovely, will do

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                          • DanHD
                            DanH @Christoph Hart
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                            @Christoph-Hart so it seems to have fixed the project I sent you but now I can't open my main project at all πŸ˜† Want me to send the stack trace? Or try something else?

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                            • Christoph HartC
                              Christoph Hart @DanH
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                              @DanH have you recompiled the dll?

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                              • DanHD
                                DanH @Christoph Hart
                                last edited by

                                @Christoph-Hart trying that now - throwing errors so I'll do the nodes first and then the networks.

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                                • DanHD
                                  DanH @Christoph Hart
                                  last edited by DanH

                                  @Christoph-Hart fixed πŸŽ‰

                                  Thanks!!

                                  I see the delete button as well, although I need to style it. Are there docs for this yet? Or an example?

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                                  • Christoph HartC
                                    Christoph Hart @DanH
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                                    @DanH just use the css inspector to get the CSS selectors (#delete for the column and .delete-button for the button itself.

                                    Not much to add to the docs here…

                                    Iβ€˜ve also added a property for disabling the unselecting of exclusive source draggers.

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                                    • DanHD
                                      DanH @Christoph Hart
                                      last edited by

                                      @Christoph-Hart thanks, I was just about to look for that.! So do we add that into the data? I can't see a property tab for it.

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                                      • ustkU
                                        ustk @DanH
                                        last edited by

                                        @DanH yeah just add this

                                        "UnselectableExclusiveSource": false

                                        or delete the floating tile and create a new one

                                        Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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                                        • DanHD
                                          DanH @ustk
                                          last edited by

                                          @ustk ah yes the old create new component to see the changes πŸ˜† You'd think I'd have learnt that by now! 😁

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                                          • DanHD
                                            DanH @Christoph Hart
                                            last edited by DanH

                                            @Christoph-Hart So since we have the new shiny delete button do we need the 'remove row after selecting "no connection"' behaviour?

                                            Also I'm experiences a little weirdness with the delete button - the matrix components seem to cramp up to the left in my project if no source is selected and in the mod matrix example snippet the aux intensity and plotter combine too. Will test some moreScreenshot 2026-01-19 at 18.27.10.png

                                            EDIT - Oh I don't think the AUX combobox is being drawn in this case.

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