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    • bendursoB
      bendurso
      last edited by bendurso

      I’m experiencing an issue when using a macro modulator in Ableton (with VST3 plugin only). When a macro modulator is active, you can’t change anything in the automation menu—it gets stuck.

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      The AU version works fine.
      I tested this on Ableton 11.3.42 / macOs Sequoia 15.6.1

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      • ILIAMI
        ILIAM @bendurso
        last edited by

        @bendurso Worst than that is that you can't undo redo anything, try to bypass / unbypass something, you'll see

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        • bendursoB
          bendurso @ILIAM
          last edited by

          @ILIAM said in VST3 / Ableton / Macro Modulation Issue:

          Worst than that is that you can't undo redo anything, try to bypass / unbypass something, you'll see

          Oh yeah, that's another issue. With VST3 and also AU.

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          • bendursoB
            bendurso
            last edited by

            I think the problem is that the macro modulation system interferes with the DAW's automation system.

            Ideally, the DAW would ignore parameters with isPluginParameter if they have a macro assigned. But... isPluginParameter can't be set dynamically.

            Is there a solution for this? @Christoph-Hart

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            • Christoph HartC
              Christoph Hart @bendurso
              last edited by

              @bendurso Is this on the latest develop branch? I feel like we've fixed this a few months ago.

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              • DanHD
                DanH @Christoph Hart
                last edited by

                @Christoph-Hart much longer than that! Gotta be a couple of years nearly!

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                • Christoph HartC
                  Christoph Hart @DanH
                  last edited by

                  Alright, it's fixed now, it suspends the parameter update notification when a macro modulation is present.

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                  • bendursoB
                    bendurso @Christoph Hart
                    last edited by

                    @Christoph-Hart Perfect. Thank you very much!

                    It works now! You can now go back with Cmd+Z and you can also use the track's automation panel.

                    The only minor issue is that if I load a preset that has macro modulation, then close the plugin window and open the track's automation, it becomes laggy again. But if I open the plugin window again, it's fixed and the parameter disappears from the automation list. Kinda weird, but not so important.

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