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    • OrvillainO
      Orvillain
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      Or maybe I'm better off making custom panels with callbacks, and doing all of the scaling stuff I want to do inside regular LAF, rather than css ??

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      • OrvillainO
        Orvillain @Orvillain
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        @Orvillain I solved my issue by making my font size a percentage of the dragger, but it was a bit weird. Everything I tried simply would not update the font size. Even doing a setStylePropertyblahblahblah call on the LAF object didn't work.

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        • Christoph HartC
          Christoph Hart @Orvillain
          last edited by

          @Orvillain wait, how do you rescale your UI? Settings.setZoomFactor() should scale all fonts correctly.

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          • OrvillainO
            Orvillain @Christoph Hart
            last edited by Orvillain

            @Christoph-Hart said in Matrix Modulation Feedback:

            @Orvillain wait, how do you rescale your UI? Settings.setZoomFactor() should scale all fonts correctly.

            No I'm not doing that. I have a custom scaling namespace that does a bunch of math, but ultimately what it does is update the properties of any UI widge - so x, y, w, h, fontSize, etc etc.

            This kind of thing:

                inline function rescaleAll()
                {
                    // Order of operations:
                    // Resize interface
                    // Re-apply panel bounds
                    // Re-apply control bounds
                    // Re-apply control style props (font, radii, etc.)
                    // Reposition zoom handle
            
                    // Resize the window
                    Content.makeFrontInterface(SharedData.getScaledWidth(), SharedData.getScaledHeight());
            
                    // Panels first (so parents are sized before children)
                    for (i = 0; i < _layout.length; i++)
                        _applyScaledBounds(_layout[i]);
            
                    // Controls: bounds then props
                    for (i = 0; i < _controls.length; i++)
                    {
                        _applyScaledBounds(_controls[i]);
                        _applyScaledProps(_controls[i]);
                    }
            
                    LogicalZoom.onRescaled();
                }
            

            Effectively, I'm scaling everything manually. Not using the automatic zoom factor way to do it. I don't have a reason other than coder ego!!

            And this all works fine, but setting the font-size property in the modulation controller didn't seem to update in any of the ways I tried.

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            • Christoph HartC
              Christoph Hart @Orvillain
              last edited by

              @Orvillain now you have another reason. Also all dialogs / other inbuilt components will not scale correctly like this.

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              • OrvillainO
                Orvillain @Christoph Hart
                last edited by Orvillain

                @Christoph-Hart said in Matrix Modulation Feedback:

                @Orvillain now you have another reason. Also all dialogs / other inbuilt components will not scale correctly like this.

                Ah cool beans. Yeah that was trivial to implement in my existing code, and actually makes the whole thing a lot simpler. Sorry, I thought the whole thing was originally a bug to do with the matrix mod controller and how it processed css - hence tagging onto this thread!

                The only slight loss is, my approach was working inside HISE directly, without having to compile the plugin in order to double check zoom/rescale performance.

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                • Christoph HartC
                  Christoph Hart @Orvillain
                  last edited by

                  @Orvillain You can still check this within HISE - basically the zoom factor in the interface designer does exactly that and if you want to check the actual behaviour with the zoom setting set by the user you can use a second floating tile window that you add a "Main Interface" to - this respects the zoom setting (unlike the popup interface that appears when you click on the house button).

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                  • OrvillainO
                    Orvillain @Christoph Hart
                    last edited by

                    @Christoph-Hart Good to know, cheers!!

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                    • DanHD
                      DanH @Christoph Hart
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                      @Christoph-Hart What are the modulationDrag states please?

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                      • DanHD
                        DanH @DanH
                        last edited by

                        @Christoph-Hart I have some Macro knobs on the UI. I'm hoping to be able to modulate them with other modulators, however currentIy I can assign a Macro to itself 😆

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                        • DanHD
                          DanH @DanH
                          last edited by

                          @Christoph-Hart last one for now 😆

                          If a modulator has a connection is there a method to display this in css / laf?

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                          • ustkU
                            ustk @DanH
                            last edited by

                            @DanH You just add it in the Global Mod Container

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                            • ustkU
                              ustk @DanH
                              last edited by

                              @DanH said in Matrix Modulation Feedback:

                              @Christoph-Hart What are the modulationDrag states please?

                              0 -> nothing happens
                              1 -> itemDragEnter
                              2 -> itemDragExit

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                              • DanHD
                                DanH @ustk
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                                @ustk yes exactly, but we don't want Macro 1 assigned to Macro 1 do we?! 😆

                                So perhaps there's a way to remove the Modulator from the list if you're trying to connect it to itself.

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                                • ustkU
                                  ustk @DanH
                                  last edited by

                                  @DanH No, why would you lol. There are not in the target list if you don't assign a matrixTargetId
                                  The way I understand it is that you don't want them to be "modulatable", you just assign a macro + another modulation to the parameters, and it has the same effect

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                                  • DanHD
                                    DanH @ustk
                                    last edited by

                                    @ustk Modulating a Macro can be useful though... :)

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                                    • ustkU
                                      ustk @DanH
                                      last edited by

                                      @DanH I agree with this, but then it is a design choice. I prefer to see macro as a modulator than "something else" aside the modulation part. It seems easier for me to understand and use, but my practice of modulation and macro is very limited...

                                      I'd just say that in a plugin, I prefer to keep related things in one place so it better fits my vision to have marco like modulator

                                      Perhaps it is possible to have two sets of modulators, so one can modulate another? I don't know...

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                                      • Christoph HartC
                                        Christoph Hart @ustk
                                        last edited by

                                        @ustk you can modulate a modulator by assigning a matrixTargetId to the UI knob of any modulator parameter.

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                                        • DanHD
                                          DanH @Christoph Hart
                                          last edited by

                                          @Christoph-Hart but is there a way to prevent a user modulating a macro with the same macro?

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                                          • ustkU
                                            ustk @Christoph Hart
                                            last edited by

                                            @Christoph-Hart Okay 👍 There's also the AUX modulation (which should achieve the same thing, right?) but I couldn't seem to make it work...

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