Matrix Modulation Feedback

[DanH]

@Christoph-Hart I'd like them placed top right of the sliders. I've shrunk them down a bit

const var DRAG_SIZE = 18;

[Christoph Hart]

@DanH ah sorry, I misunderstood, I thought you were referring to the draggers that you drop on a knob to assign a connection.

The little sliders that show up on hovering are positioned with the obj.dragAreas property - it's expected to contain one rectangle object per modulation connection which will be used to position the slider.

I'm heavily relying on the new Rectangle scripting class here as this makes slicing & rectangle logic a breeze (eg. constrainedWithin() automatically checks that all sliders remain visible and do not go off the bounds of the parent component).

I'd like them placed top right of the sliders.

Then just change

local x = Rectangle(obj.sliderBounds[0], obj.sliderBounds[1] + obj.sliderBounds[3], totalWidth, DRAG_SIZE);

to

local x = Rectangle(obj.sliderBounds[0], obj.sliderBounds[1] - DRAG_SIZE, totalWidth, DRAG_SIZE);

this will put the y position of the bounding box above the slider.

[DanH]

@Christoph-Hart Ah cool, thanks! I'll get back to you re the other draggers

I think we may need some better terminology here lol. Lots of draggers going on

[DanH]

@Christoph-Hart Hardcoded Master FX don't seem to have any Envelope options to select the MatrixMod module...

EDIT - No, wait, something else weird going on. Some do, some don't, including stock fx...

[Orvillain]

@DanH Is your network compiled as polyphonic?

[DanH]

@Orvillain Nope

[DanH]

@Christoph-Hart so yeah this is quite a vanilla gain module... but it doesn't have the Envelpoes option either. Others do. Not sure why this doesn't...

EDIT - So perhaps something to do with the type of container they're in? Synth Group and Instrument stuff all works fine. Normal container doesn't. Including the top level container. I'll se if there's an update to Hise...

Same behaviour on latest build

[DanH]

@Christoph-Hart But even without a MatrixMod you can still apply modulation to any knob which is cool - is there a difference with accuracy here?

[Christoph Hart]

Is SYNTH a container? You can only add envelope modulators to FX that have voice processing.

[DanH]

@Christoph-Hart SYNTHS is a Synth Group.

Ok, forgot about Containers not processing voices.... If just enabling MidiLearn on a knob provides sample accurate modulation then perhaps this isn't too much of an issue? Otherwise I'll be rebuilding the entire architecture of this instrument

If we get the FM and Unisono etc sorted that might mean that everything can just go into a Synth group anyway

[DanH]

@Christoph-Hart as an aside what does this mean for fx instruments? Can we get a different MatrixMod in the TimeVariant menu?

[DanH]

@Christoph-Hart

It's fixed now (I also added a check to remove spaces in the mod source name to make it valid CSS identifiers, as you can see here:

Just been trying this with latest build and can't get it to work... have tried MACRO 1, MACRO1 and MACRO _1. Perhaps I've misunderstood:

EDIT - Have to use lowercase

[DanH]

@Christoph-Hart Morning! Adding multiple sources to a target will change the modulation range. However, how this is reflected on the sliders isn't that helpful, as the modulation can move well beyond the range shown:

One solution could be to only show the modulation range of the source selected, using ScriptModulationMatrix.setSourceSelectionCallback()

By the way is this callback functioning yet?

[Christoph Hart]

However, how this is reflected on the sliders isn't that helpful, as the modulation can move well beyond the range shown

Can you send me a snippet with the state that demonstrates this? the modulation range is actually supposed to cover the combined maximum of all modulation connections, but it's a bit difficult to get that right with all possible combinations so I might have overlooked something.

So eg. if you have two bipolar connections with 25% intensity each, the display modulation range should go from -50% to +50%. If you then add a unipolar connection with +20%, then it should go from -50% to +70%, etc.

Ideally you won't have to rely on the "selected" modulation (as you can always see the selected modulation range as it is displayed on the hover up), but the modulation range is calculated correctly in all scenarios.

[DanH]

@Christoph-Hart here's one like the gif I posted, using two lfos:

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[DanH]

@Christoph-Hart the remove option in the intensity sliders pop up isn't behaving nicely. It doesn't seem to work at all in my project, and it will also leave behind the intensity slider. In the snippet I can remove LFO 1 as a source but not LFO 2 (which has been added after the tutorial was made - not sure if that has something to do with not being able to remove any sources in my project too).

[Christoph Hart]

@DanH have you reloaded the project after adding the second LFO (or rebuild the interface)? The structure of the modulation architecture is supposed to be very constant, so it might still not recognize the second LFO as source at some points.

[DanH]

@Christoph-Hart I'll double check - and it's the pop up of the target slider itself rather than the intensity slider as I said before - my mistake. 'Remove Connection' option in Intensity pop up works fine.

[Christoph Hart]

@DanH ah yes I can reproduce that, it's a simple oversight on my part.

[Christoph Hart]

@Christoph-Hart oh but since the example clears out the connections in the onInit callback I cannot reproduce your connection setup that reproduces the range issue. Can you remove that line (44, matrixHandler.clearAllConnections(""); and reexport the snippet?