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    • d.healeyD
      d.healey @CatABC
      last edited by d.healey

      @CatABC This turned out to be more complicated than I thought. At first I tried the muter method, but the problem is that switching the muter is too slow, so you have to press the keyswitch before triggering the sound, which I think is the problem you were describing.

      The solution I found is to add one script per sound generator as you were doing. They are all aware of the range of keyswitches so each script can check if its keyswitch has been triggered, and if it has it will play sounds, if it hasn't it will just ignore them.

      The last challenge was to prevent hanging notes after the keyswitch has changed, to do that I'm tracking the last key press before the switch and then turning off the last note in the note off callback.

      It's possible there might still be hanging notes under certain conditions, so if you come across any you will have some debugging to do - hanging note issues are always fun 😧

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      • CatABCC
        CatABC @d.healey
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        @d-healey I tried your Snippet, and I don't know if you have the same problem. When the third KS is triggered, the note triggered by the third KS cannot be stopped. In addition, when switching from the first KS to the second KS, and then switching from the second KS back to the original KS, there will be no sound, but there is always a level display on the waveform generator. I searched for a long time, but I couldn't solve the problem. This problem is too frustrating.
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        • d.healeyD
          d.healey @CatABC
          last edited by

          @CatABC said in Make the Gain knob smooth the gain?:

          the note triggered by the third KS cannot be stopped.

          Yeah this is the kind of hanging note issue I said you might run into. I'm just testing with my keyboard in realtime, haven't tried with MIDI in a daw but I expect it is less forgiving.

          You'll need to dig into the code to see how to mitigate the hanging notes.

          It's a bit cumbersome to work on because each time you make a change to one of the scripts you need to copy it over to the others. If you move it to an external file it might automatically update the others when it's compiled, I'm not sure though.

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          • CatABCC
            CatABC @d.healey
            last edited by

            @d-healey

            Aha, here is a free software loopMIDI, which can transfer DAW MIDI information to HISE in real time.

            loopMIDI | Tobias Erichsen

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            • d.healeyD
              d.healey @CatABC
              last edited by

              @CatABC There is a MIDI player built into HISE, you don't need to transfer it from the DAW. You could also build HISE as a plugin if you really wanted to work within the DAW.

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              • CatABCC
                CatABC @d.healey
                last edited by

                @d-healey said in Make the Gain knob smooth the gain?:

                @CatABC said in Make the Gain knob smooth the gain?:

                the note triggered by the third KS cannot be stopped.

                Yeah this is the kind of hanging note issue I said you might run into. I'm just testing with my keyboard in realtime, haven't tried with MIDI in a daw but I expect it is less forgiving.

                You'll need to dig into the code to see how to mitigate the hanging notes.

                It's a bit cumbersome to work on because each time you make a change to one of the scripts you need to copy it over to the others. If you move it to an external file it might automatically update the others when it's compiled, I'm not sure though.

                I added this line of code to each onNoteOff,

                	Synth.addVolumeFade(eventIds.getValue(lastNote), 500, -100);
                

                and it will have this error,

                ! onNoteOff() - Line 11, column 21: Event ID must be positive
                

                but the note can be stopped. In addition, there is currently a problem that the third note does not play the note pressed above, but the note of KS itself.

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                • ChazroxC
                  Chazrox @CatABC
                  last edited by Chazrox

                  @CatABC the last number is a delay time. You cant have a negative delay time. Thats saying you're trying to turn off a note that you havent played yet. Its usually 'zero' unless your compensating your a delayedNoteOn message in which case it should be a positive number equal to your delayed message amount / or more, hence your error.

                  must be positive

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                  • CatABCC
                    CatABC @Chazrox
                    last edited by

                    @Chazrox I used Synth.noteOffByEventId() instead and it works fine now

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                    • CatABCC
                      CatABC @CatABC
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                      @d-healey

                      I found that KS will overwrite the value of lastNote. When the third KS is triggered, eventIds.setValue(lastNote, Synth.playNote(lastNote, Message.getVelocity())); does not play the original note value. Is it possible to write the lastNote value back to the first value in the onNoteOff function?

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                      • ChazroxC
                        Chazrox @CatABC
                        last edited by

                        @CatABC I didnt know you can eventId.setValue(). That works?

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