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      aaronventure @d.healey
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      @d-healey Is it? I can't remember. I just saw this under the Sample Editor in the new commits and thought it was new.

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        d.healey @aaronventure
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        @aaronventure Nothing new there as far as I can see.

        Shows the relative path for me btw

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          aaronventure @d.healey
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          @d-healey well, damn 🤣

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            Christoph Hart @aaronventure
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            @aaronventure the table is updated to show the new logic layers that you define.

            The real change is in the complex group manager tab (which is part of the updated UI layout once you reset your workspace).

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              d.healey @Christoph Hart
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              @Christoph-Hart I'm not seeing it

              Edit: Ah I think I need to build with some newer commits, but that webview stuff is still enabled and giving me build errors.

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                d.healey
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                @Christoph-Hart I've just been attempting to open some of my older projects in the latest develop build of HISE.

                Any projects that are using Group Xfade immediately segfault when I play a note. I believe this is probably related to the new sample mapping stuff.

                Here's the stack trace.

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                Group index is -1, might be the issue

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                  d.healey
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                  If I move group += 1 from line 1551 to line 1558 it seems to solve the issue - not sure if this is correct though?

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                    Orvillain
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                    This all sounds quite exciting, but I also don't really get it right now. 🤣

                    All I would say is, I find the system of disabling disabling RR's with enable.RoiundRobin(false) and then writing custom RR logic and using setActiveGroup(int) to be very intuitive.

                    I don't entirely agree that "improvements" are always better than backwards compatibility - especially if intuitiveness is affected.

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                      Christoph Hart @Orvillain
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                      @Orvillain you can still do that. It just adds another layer on top of that so that you can implement more complex layouts more easily plus there are a few new functions that only work with this new mode.

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                        Christoph Hart @d.healey
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                        @d-healey I have to check this as this is not something that I would brute force fix, but it should be pretty easy.

                        Can you send me a samplemap that crashes?

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                          Orvillain @Christoph Hart
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                          @Christoph-Hart Sounds great. I'm looking forward to docs + Dave's video! 😊

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                            d.healey @Christoph Hart
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                            @Christoph-Hart said in The Sample Map of The Future: Escaping the 20th Century Sample Mapping Paradigm:

                            Can you send me a samplemap that crashes?

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                            It looks to me like the group += 1 is on the wrong side of the else. Because, from what I understand, it should happen when we're not using the complex group manager.

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                              Christoph Hart @d.healey
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                              @d-healey Alright that's fixed - that logic is a bit convoluted because as soon as something is not zero based (like the old RR group values were) it breaks my brain, but you can thank that deficiency of mine for not having to write Lua all day.

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