clicking 'drum pad" buttons OF MY PLUG-IN in my DAW dont record midi notes

WepaAudio

@d-healey maybe koala sampler do that because everything its built in, sorry, then adding pads to a plug in is useless, I thought I used plug ins with pads before and done that, but I might be wrong'

Morphoice

@d-healey I’m100% sure plugins cant output midi to the track, at lest it is in no way a reliable standard. usually things like pattern or arps are made draggable to output them, recording midi on a plugins drumpad is probably very timing inaccurate. There are ways plugins can route midi information to other plugins or tracks in certain DAWs, but thats not standard either. At least not in VST world. Maybe with CLAP one day

ustk

Message.sendToMidiOut() should do it, in conjunction with the Enable Midi Out flag in the Settings

WepaAudio

@ustk thanx, I have enabled the midi out before but didn't have the: Message.sendToMidiOut(), thank you, now when I add it it crash Hise, is there a specific area to place this? ive try it everywhere, on Noteon,onNote off, onControl , onInit, idk if its my plug in or its me, thanx for your help and your next answer.

d.healey

@ustk said in clicking 'drum pad" buttons OF MY PLUG-IN in my DAW dont record midi notes:

Message.sendToMidiOut() should do it, in conjunction with the Enable Midi Out flag in the Settings

Isn't that only for effects?

ustk

@d-healey I thought too at first but:

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d.healey

@ustk Hmmm not sure how that would work with "drum pads" because they don't go through the MIDI message system.

Orvillain

You'd have to link the click event of your drum pad to a call to Message.sendToMidiOut() somehow I would guess.

d.healey

@Orvillain But how would you generate the Message from a button click? Closest I can see is MessageHolder, but that doesn't have the sendToMidiOut function.

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Lindon

@d-healey MessageHolder?

HISE | Docs

(docs.hise.audio)

--damn it missed you already mentioning this

ulrik

@WepaAudio If you enable midi out and set the Message.sendToMidiOut() in your on noteOn and on noteOff callbacks it should work

Here it's working in Logic, however you you have to enable the routing of midi from the instrument to the same track in Logic
I'll test it in Live and come back...

d.healey

@ulrik How are you turning the button press into a Message? or do you not need to?

ulrik

@d-healey

	if (event.clicked)
	{
		midiList.setValue(noteSources[idx], Synth.addNoteOn(1, noteSources[idx], 127, 0));
		this.changed();
	}
	
	if (event.mouseUp)
		Synth.noteOffByEventId(midiList.getValue(noteSources[idx]));

and the Message.sendToMidiOut() in on noteOn/Off callbacks

d.healey

@ulrik Synth.addNoteOn() triggers the on note on callback?

Orvillain

@ulrik Yes, this is the kind of thing I was imagining.

ulrik

@d-healey Yes, I'm using an external script processor where I have the Message.sendToMidiOut() messages

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ulrik

@Orvillain I can get it to work in Ableton Live as well, but I have to record the midi sent from the instrument on another track, only vst3 is working, not the component version off the instrument

VirtualVirgin

Yes, you can send MIDI out from button clicks.
I am working on a series of MIDI plugins at the moment.

You need to enable MIDI out in settings:
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When using UI components to generate MIDI notes, you need to use Synth.addNoteOn() and Synth.addNoteOff() on the callback to you component.

Here I have pads (made with panels) which play chords when you use a mouse click.
It turns the notes off when the mouse is up.

			// mouse callbacks for the pads -- 
			pad.setMouseCallback(function[unitSize](event)
			{
				var ps = this.data.pitchSet;
				var l = ps.length;			
				
				if (event.clicked)
				{
					var velocity = Math.round(event.y / unitSize * 127);							
					for (k = 0; k < l; k++)
						Synth.addNoteOn(1, ps[k], velocity, 0);									
				}
				
				if (event.mouseUp)
				{				
					for (k = 0; k < l; k++)
						Synth.addNoteOff(1, ps[k], 0);
				}				
			});

To get the MIDI to output from the plugin,
as others have said you must use Message.sendToMidiOut();

To make sure it catches everything (and not some intermediate stage of MIDI),
I always place these functions in a script processor and container after all of my other containers:
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