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    • dustbro
      dustbro last edited by

      I'm encountering a situation where my sampler won't trigger the 2nd sample if midi notes are overlapped. For example, programming a flam on a drum, it will only trigger the 1st sample. If the midi notes do not touch or overlap, all is fine.
      Here are my sampler settings:
      0_1542891842345_Screen Shot 2018-11-22 at 8.03.29 AM.png

      Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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      • d.healey
        d.healey @dustbro last edited by

        @dustbro What are the voice settings?

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        • Christoph Hart
          Christoph Hart last edited by

          A midi file or screenshot of the piano roll would be helpful. There might be something confusing the order of the voice sorting so it kills the current one instead of the one before the last one.

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          • dustbro
            dustbro last edited by

            Here's what I'm seeing.

            Overlapping midi =

            0_1543076820681_Screen Shot 2018-11-24 at 11.21.29 AM.png

            Separate midi =

            0_1543076841869_Screen Shot 2018-11-24 at 11.25.02 AM.png

            Here are the sampler settings
            0_1543076967099_Screen Shot 2018-11-24 at 11.28.58 AM.png

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            • Christoph Hart
              Christoph Hart last edited by

              Ah I see, and if you change the retrigger mode to something else (the least restrictive is "Do nothing"), the problem goes away?

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              • dustbro
                dustbro @Christoph Hart last edited by

                @christoph-hart I'll check asap

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                • dustbro
                  dustbro @Christoph Hart last edited by

                  @christoph-hart None of the sampler Retrigger modes solve the issue.

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                  • d.healey
                    d.healey last edited by

                    Any scripting?

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                    • dustbro
                      dustbro @d.healey last edited by

                      @d-healey no scripting

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                      • d.healey
                        d.healey last edited by d.healey

                        Make the simplest version of your project you possibly can that has this issue and upload it so we can test it and find the cause. Remove anything from the project that is not necessary.

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                        • dustbro
                          dustbro last edited by

                          Here's a stripped down version:
                          https://we.tl/t-KI4rINU36y

                          Just a single sample mapped to C1

                          Create midi notes that overlap like the pic above, and it will only trigger the first sample.

                          Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                          • d.healey
                            d.healey last edited by

                            I like the choice of sample 😉

                            I built it as a VSTi plugin and had no issues with overlap. Did you try adding an interface?

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                            • dustbro
                              dustbro @d.healey last edited by

                              @d-healey interesting. Which daw? I'm going to post some videos today.
                              I didn't add an interface to this test, but my other samples had interfaces.
                              Thanks for checking it out

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                              • dustbro
                                dustbro last edited by

                                @d-healey @Christoph-Hart


                                Here's a video

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                                • d.healey
                                  d.healey @dustbro last edited by

                                  @dustbro I used Reaper too, but I don't have the plugin version of HISE so I just exported your demo project to a VSTi and tested that. Can you do the same and see if the problem is still there?

                                  What version of HISE are you using?

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                                  • dustbro
                                    dustbro @d.healey last edited by

                                    @d-healey Exported VSTi has the same result

                                    I'm using HISE 2.0
                                    0_1543934222182_Screen Shot 2018-12-04 at 9.18.14 AM.png

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                                    • Christoph Hart
                                      Christoph Hart last edited by

                                      Hmm, I can't replicate this in either Reaper or Cubase - overlapping notes still are triggered here.

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                                      • dustbro
                                        dustbro @Christoph Hart last edited by

                                        @christoph-hart @d-healey
                                        I appreciate you guys looking into this. I'm not really sure where to look next to solve this issue. It's happening on my MAC and PC, as well as 6 other users computers I use for beta testing.

                                        I just compiled the latest version on a completely new system and I can't even get the sampler to play. Sine generator works fine. Check out this video... got me scratching my head. It doesn't appear the be a plugin vs. standalone issues either. It happens on both.

                                        would you guys mind uploading your test vsti so I can check here?

                                        Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                                        • dustbro
                                          dustbro last edited by

                                          @Christoph-Hart I'm also noticing some sampler inconsistencies when printing audio from the vsti (as well as using the freeze function in Cubase)
                                          check this out:


                                          0_1543957931793_CUT SAMPLE.png

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                                          • d.healey
                                            d.healey @dustbro last edited by

                                            @dustbro said in Sample not triggered if MIDI overlaps:

                                            would you guys mind uploading your test vsti so I can check here?

                                            Mine is GNU/Linux so I don't think it will be much use to you

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