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    • DanHD
      DanH
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      So Serum 2 was released this week (in case you hadn't noticed 😆 )

      It's great, packed full of incredible sound design features. I was lucky enough to been on beta testing for a few months.

      One of the features people seem to be going most wild for is the Spectral Sampling. I wonder if this is something we might see in Hise one day?!

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      • griffinboyG
        griffinboy @DanH
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        @DanH

        Already done it. Efficiency is the hard thing. Idk how much cpu serums implementation uses.

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        • DanHD
          DanH @griffinboy
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          @griffinboy it's probably as CPU friendly as it can be. Steve Duda said he 'spent millions' on Serum 2. Here's me holding one note on a short sample. Once you add unison and fx it goes up quick.

          This is on a brand new M4 mac mini...

          Screenshot 2025-03-19 at 15.03.58.png

          So did you build your own sampler to import into?

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          • clevername27C
            clevername27 @DanH
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            @DanH Is that your plugin?

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            • griffinboyG
              griffinboy @DanH
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              @DanH

              pfff yeah like I thought
              XD

              Very expensive cpu wise. It's unavoidable. I've been looking at ways of doing a mixture of offline and online processing to achieve something similar. FFT / Additive stuff is always expensive.

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              • DanHD
                DanH @clevername27
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                @clevername27 I wish 😆

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                • clevername27C
                  clevername27 @DanH
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                  @DanH What does it do that you want to do?

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                  • DanHD
                    DanH @clevername27
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                    @clevername27 sounds cool 😎

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                    • clevername27C
                      clevername27 @DanH
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                      @DanH Ha, OK. If there is a specific technology you'd like to use in your plugin, I can tell you how to do it. I can't tell you how to do it in HISE—but I can tell you how to do it. Feel free to ask away…

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                      • d.healeyD
                        d.healey @DanH
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                        @DanH said in Serum 2 - Spectral Sampler:

                        One of the features people seem to be going most wild for is the Spectral Sampling. I wonder if this is something we might see in Hise one day?!

                        What is spectral sampling?

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                        • DanHD
                          DanH @d.healey
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                          @d-healey sorry should have written spectral sampler. It's actually a spectral re-synthesis engine that takes whatever sample you throw into it and re-synthesises it, with interesting results. You can then warp it using multiple filter / fm options.

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                          • clevername27C
                            clevername27 @DanH
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                            @DanH @d-healey (My plugin basically does this.)

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                            • DanHD
                              DanH @clevername27
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                              @clevername27 pray tell.... 👀

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                              • d.healeyD
                                d.healey @DanH
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                                @DanH said in Serum 2 - Spectral Sampler:

                                It's actually a spectral re-synthesis engine that takes whatever sample you throw into it and re-synthesises it

                                You can do this with Loris (GPL)

                                Also Paraphrasis (which uses Loris) might be of interest to you.

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                                • clevername27C
                                  clevername27 @DanH
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                                  @DanH See the videos here. The main thing my software does is convert audio recordings to these models—which can then be resynthesised. To be clear, much of this processing occurs outside of the HISE plugin. (Please excuse the idiot in the photo.)

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                                  • DanHD
                                    DanH @clevername27
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                                    @clevername27 This is an awesome pug-in! Congrats! When you say the processing happens outside the Hise plug-in where does it happen exactly?

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                                    • clevername27C
                                      clevername27 @DanH
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                                      @DanH Thank you, kindly. It happens in other software I've written (stand-alone, command-line, boring-looking).

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                                      • A
                                        Allen
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                                        I have an unfinished prototype does "spectral granular" with warp functions. Been considering including that in my synth for a long time though. I'll try if i can find a way to implement that in hise.

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                                        • clevername27C
                                          clevername27 @Allen
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                                          @Allen I'd be interested in learning more…

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                                          • DanHD
                                            DanH @Allen
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                                            @Allen very interested in the warp functions!

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