Multi-point envelope as modulator

Lindon

Perhaps actually all I need is the LFO modulator (Custom) to be enhanced to allow longer values like say 8 bars instead of just 1 bar...

and whilst I'm here, the steps modulator to move from 16 steps to 128?

Christoph Hart

Hmm I can‘t add more values to the Tempo list (especially at the beginning) because i would break existing values. But if you use the unsynced mode, you can use any arbitrary low frequency (0.1 Hz gives you a 10 second loop, and 1 / (3600*24) will keep you entertained for a whole day.

Dan Korneff

@Christoph-Hart said in Multi-point envelope as modulator:

1 / (3600*24) will keep you entertained for a whole day

Lindon

@Christoph-Hart yeah, but no.

I cant get the freq in unsync-ed mode down below 0.5Hz

I think the only (user sets a shape) approach I can use is the step modulator - so I would really really like this to extend beyond the 16 steps in there right now...so if 16 was the default that wouldnt break anything would it?

Christoph Hart

I cant get the freq in unsync-ed mode down below 0.5Hz

With the knob on the LFO interface yes, but this is just a random range that I picked at some point in the past. The actual frequency limit is much higher (lower) and can be changed using scripting calls:

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This is actually one of the rare cases of RTFM:

If you do so, you are not limited to the listed range, but be careful or you crash the application when used with wild values.

http://hise.audio/manual/Processors.php :)

Lindon

@Christoph-Hart ok great, but my real need is for the added steps in the step modulator....

Christoph Hart

I am doing this actually already in HEXERACT. It works by adding a SliderPack on the UI, assigning it to the LFO and then pass an array into SliderPack.setValue(), which resizes the slider pack automatically:

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Lindon

@Christoph-Hart OH cool _ I'll give this a go then.

Lindon

@Christoph-Hart

OK follow up question. I cant seem to get the LFO to retrigger - restart on new note - is that possible with step based LFOs?

Christoph Hart

Turn Legato off?

Lindon

@Christoph-Hart yes that works on everything EXCEPT the LFO applied to gain...

Christoph Hart

What if you put the LFO into a Global Modulation Container and a TimeVariant Global modulator into the gain modulation chain?

Lindon

@Christoph-Hart wha? :-)

Lindon

@Christoph-Hart well that seems to work, but its very very fragile. Everything must be declared in the right order - Global Modulator Containers and their modulators before the TimeVariant Global modulator, everything must be re-named every time you make a change - or the UI wont connect up.

I think at the very least the LFO Modulator needs a call to set the steps to some SliderPack like some of the other elements that use tables...doing it via the UI continues to be something I'm having a lot of problems trusting these days.

A Former User

@Christoph-Hart If I set the LFO wave-selector to sin or anything else, it doesn't go back to the values given by the slider pack, even if I recompile.

Also if I set up something like a noise generator and and lfo modulating the gain, and I add a slider pack which I assign to the LFO modulator in the interface property, it doesn't work.

Do I have to add some code for this or is it supposed to work just by assigning the property in the interface editor?

Thanks,

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