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    • d.healeyD
      d.healey @orange
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      @orange said in About Rule Tec:

      @d-healey Thanks.
      Of course there is, Didn't you see? On the product page ;)

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      Rule Tec Heritage Pro | NoiseAsh Inc

      Extremely accurate legends. Legendary passive equalizers have long been a top choice of leading recording and mastering engineers since it was released. When it was first on the market; this custom-engineered and built by hand unit was a game-changer in recording studios, as you now could manipulate the sound even…

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      I like it :)

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      • FortuneF
        Fortune @orange
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        @orange Sounds great, Looks great. Congrats.
        You are one of the best developers in this Hise community!

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        • ulrikU
          ulrik @orange
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          @orange Sounds great, congratulations!!

          Hise Develop branch
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          • Christoph HartC
            Christoph Hart
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            Congrats, really nice UI and teaser video!

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            • ustkU
              ustk
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              Wouaw! That's pro! πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘

              Can't help pressing F5 in the forum...

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              • hisefiloH
                hisefilo @ustk
                last edited by

                Love it!!! UI rocks! Wish you the best on this release. Fingers crossed

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                  Win Conway @d.healey
                  last edited by

                  @d-healey so HISE has to be mentioned on releases ?
                  That will put some developers off.

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                    Win Conway
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                    Good luck with the release, but do keep in mind that personally i started the demo download, saw it was 279mb for one plugin and just cancelled the download straight away, I am not going to install an EQ that takes up that much space on my drive, never mind three, that is near enough an entire gigabyte for three plugins, have you considered "Basic UI" versions ?

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                    • JayJ
                      Jay
                      last edited by

                      Congrats.

                      Joansi Villalona

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                      • d.healeyD
                        d.healey @Win Conway
                        last edited by

                        @Win-Conway said in About Rule Tec:

                        @d-healey so HISE has to be mentioned on releases ?

                        No, but it's nice to spread the word.

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                        • orangeO
                          orange @Win Conway
                          last edited by orange

                          @Win-Conway said in About Rule Tec:

                          @d-healey so HISE has to be mentioned on releases ?
                          That will put some developers off.

                          Like @d-healey said, it would be nice to spread the Hise. And also it would be so nice to thank @Christoph-Hart who worked so hard to make it possible and make the new developer's dream come true ;)

                          @Win-Conway said in About Rule Tec:

                          Good luck with the release, but do keep in mind that personally i started the demo download, saw it was 279mb for one plugin and just cancelled the download straight away, I am not going to install an EQ that takes up that much space on my drive, never mind three, that is near enough an entire gigabyte for three plugins, have you considered "Basic UI" versions ?

                          No, I never considered basic vector graphics for an analog emulation. Because analog emulation lovers like the gui that is closer to the original machine's gui feel. The big size is about the high resolution graphics that is never a matter for today's high tech and high storaged computer situations imo.

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                            Win Conway @orange
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                            @orange
                            I never said vector, I said basic, if HISE can only do graphics of usable quality at 280mb when other plugins are released much smaller sizes, then that is an issue, a serious issue, storage size is very much still a concern, there is a lot of musicians now using portable devices, so these plugins would be a no go on Surface or IOS device, you just couldn't afford to lose near an entire gigabyte on three plugins.

                            @d-healey @orange
                            That doesn't really hold, unless specifically demanded to do so in the licence, then there is little to no reason at all to mention HISE, it is a development platform that will gather momentum at its own pace, if people wish to promote it then thats their choice, but there should be no remarks at all to developers about mentioning it in threads like this, that will drive away potential users, even if only users of the forum, it certainly gave me the wrong impression, but I am used to just asking, as i did.

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                            • d.healeyD
                              d.healey @Win Conway
                              last edited by d.healey

                              @Win-Conway said in About Rule Tec:

                              @orange
                              I never said vector, I said basic, if HISE can only do graphics of usable quality at 280mb when other plugins are released much smaller sizes...

                              The size of graphics is determined by the image files the developer uses not by HISE.

                              @d-healey @orange
                              there is little to no reason at all to mention HISE,

                              I thought to be nice was a good reason. But simply giving credit to Christoph for his hard work is also a good reason, everyone else on a VI project gets credited so why not the main developer also.

                              it is a development platform that will gather momentum at its own pace,

                              But word of mouth is one of the best forms of advertising and will hopefully increase the pace.

                              if people wish to promote it then thats their choice,

                              Sure is

                              but there should be no remarks at all to developers about mentioning it in threads like this,

                              Our opinions obviously diverge here.

                              that will drive away potential users, even if only users of the forum,

                              I see no evidence of this (and driving you away doesn't count :p ) To be fair though Orange is a regular around here so I may not have said anything to a newbie.

                              Libre Wave - Freedom respecting instruments and effects
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                                Win Conway
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                                You see no evidence because most people read a forum before joining, if they are put off by what they read, why would you ever see any evidence ?
                                HISE should be treated the same as any other development platform, Christoph gets paid as he asks to get paid, or do you also ask that Jules is mentioned or JUCE or C++ or Javascript, no of course not, so asking for HISE to be mentioned actually denigrates it to Synthedit and Synthmaker level in the eyes of some.

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                                  Win Conway
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                                  If there are 270mb of images in that plugin, then i would be very surprised, that UI doesn't warrant 270mb of imagery, that is a lot of images, or indeed very big images.

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                                  • d.healeyD
                                    d.healey @Win Conway
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                                    @Win-Conway said in About Rule Tec:

                                    If there are 270mb of images in that plugin, then i would be very surprised, that UI doesn't warrant 270mb of imagery, that is a lot of images, or indeed very big images.

                                    I'm assuming he is using images at 200% resolution so they will display well on everything from 4K down to 1K screens. But almost certainly the images could be optimized.

                                    Libre Wave - Freedom respecting instruments and effects
                                    My Patreon - HISE tutorials
                                    YouTube Channel - Public HISE tutorials

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                                      Win Conway
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                                      Even double sized imagery this seems extreme, I have designed the UI for a lot of software over the years, and yes i know that HISE isn't capable of using compressed imagery like .png (Which is a downer) but 270mb, I didn't actually bother installing the demo because of the size and to be fair, EQ is not that exciting to me anymore, maybe it has fixed sizes and he created images for every single fixed size down, which again would be insane amounts of work for little gain.

                                      By the way, I don't want anybody thinking i am trying to be down on @orange plugins, it is getting some stellar reviews for its sound, I am just discussing the file size.

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                                      • orangeO
                                        orange @Win Conway
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                                        @Win-Conway said in About Rule Tec:

                                        Even double sized imagery this seems extreme, I have designed the UI for a lot of software over the years, and yes i know that HISE isn't capable of using compressed imagery like .png (Which is a downer) but 270mb, I didn't actually bother installing the demo because of the size and to be fair, EQ is not that exciting to me anymore, maybe it has fixed sizes and he created images for every single fixed size down, which again would be insane amounts of work for little gain.

                                        By the way, I don't want anybody thinking i am trying to be down on @orange plugins, it is getting some stellar reviews for its sound, I am just discussing the file size.

                                        Ok we understand that you think the file size is large, so don't download :) nobody is forcing you :D So no need to repeat it again and again. Ifyou think Hise makes large fles, so you don't have to use Hise too, again, nobody is forcing you :) Use and download whatever you want. Now you can go :D

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                                        • orangeO
                                          orange @d.healey
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                                          @d-healey said in About Rule Tec:

                                          I'm assuming he is using images at 200% resolution so they will display well on everything from 4K down to 1K screens. But almost certainly the images could be optimized.

                                          Yes @d-healey the size of the images is very big, and designed for 4K monitors. Also as Christoph said, even the images are compressed, on compiled plugins the images become very big bitmap files. so that's why if your image sizes are even under 50MB (this is the image size limit of HISE), your compiled plugin can be much more bigger.

                                          develop Branch / XCode 13.1
                                          macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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                                            Win Conway @orange
                                            last edited by Win Conway

                                            @orange wow, did you just ask me to leave the forum ?
                                            What a lovely attitude ?
                                            You neither tell me to use the forum or use HISE or not, and I will post any opinions i have in this PUBLIC forum, if YOU dont want comments, do not post.

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