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    • orangeO
      orange @ccbl
      last edited by orange

      @ccbl It works. I inserted a kick synth that goes into 3-4 to trigger the sidechained Gate.

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        ccbl @orange
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        @orange Is that from within HISE itself? When I compiled the plugin and tested in Reaper I didn't get the behavior I expected.

        The plugin only shows up with 2 inputs. When it should have four like the below example. And when I set the plugin to side chain mode it gates all the time.

        Is there some other setting or flags I need do to make this work as an FX plugin?

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          ccbl @ccbl
          last edited by

          There also seems to be some delay and volume difference between left and right channels?

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            ccbl @ccbl
            last edited by

            @ccbl Also I can see my sidechain meter (bottom) doesn't seem to work as intended, it appears to just show the input signal.

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            • orangeO
              orange @ccbl
              last edited by

              @ccbl said in External sidechain?:

              @orange Is that from within HISE itself? When I compiled the plugin and tested in Reaper I didn't get the behavior I expected.

              The plugin only shows up with 2 inputs. When it should have four like the below example. And when I set the plugin to side chain mode it gates all the time.

              Is there some other setting or flags I need do to make this work as an FX plugin?

              Have you set HISE_NUM_FX_PLUGIN_CHANNELS=4 flag?

              Unless you specify it with a flag, you will always get a plugin with 2 channel inputs and outputs. With this flag, it has 4 inputs.

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              • orangeO
                orange @ccbl
                last edited by

                @ccbl said in External sidechain?:

                There also seems to be some delay and volume difference between left and right channels?

                Hmm that shouldn't happen with the standard gate.

                Below is the sidechain example 2 in the snippet browser, you can try it. In this example, the sidechain has stated in the comments that there is a latency in the signal, and to prevent this, it swaps 3-4 with 1-2 at the entrance. After processing the signal, it returns it to its original state.

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                • orangeO
                  orange @ccbl
                  last edited by

                  @ccbl said in External sidechain?:

                  @ccbl Also I can see my sidechain meter (bottom) doesn't seem to work as intended, it appears to just show the input signal.

                  Again, you can try scriptnode for this too

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                    ccbl @orange
                    last edited by

                    @orange Hmm I haven't where do you set flags? In the project settings?

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                    • orangeO
                      orange @ccbl
                      last edited by

                      @ccbl
                      Under the Settings > Extra Definitions
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                        ccbl @orange
                        last edited by

                        @orange OK sweet, I'll try some tweaks and report back.

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                        • orangeO
                          orange @ccbl
                          last edited by orange

                          @ccbl You can test with selecting "Mono Channel Support" in the settings menu.

                          I am not sure what will happen if you run the plugin on a mono channel as side chain activated. Especially in Pro Tools & Logic Pro.

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                          • Dan KorneffD
                            Dan Korneff
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                            @Christoph-Hart Can we get the default name of the sidechain to be the name of our HISE project?
                            Right now, an external sidechain is named "External Sidechain (+bus)" which can get confusing if you have 2 different plugins made with HISE on the same channel.

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                            Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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