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    • DanHD
      DanH @Sampletekk
      last edited by DanH

      @Sampletekk You only need to codesign your vst3/au files. You codesign & notarize the .pkg installer (and staple if you want). You need to re-codesign each time you export a new version, and re-notarize every new .pkg

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      • orangeO
        orange @DanH
        last edited by

        @DanH As far as I know, notarization is also required for every update. isn't it?

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        • LindonL
          Lindon @orange
          last edited by

          @orange yep - As far as my workflow goes its codesign and notarise everything every time...

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          • DanHD
            DanH @orange
            last edited by

            @orange do you notarize your vst3 & au files?

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            • d.healeyD
              d.healey @DanH
              last edited by

              @DanH said in Codesigning/Notarization 2024:

              You only need to codesign your vst3/au files. You codesign & notarize the .pkg installer

              This is correct. No need to notarize the individual binaries.

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              • S
                Sampletekk
                last edited by

                Found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bT0gmz0QPw
                Does this Notarytool replace the codesign/Notarization process described in the KVR post?

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                • d.healeyD
                  d.healey @Sampletekk
                  last edited by

                  @Sampletekk said in Codesigning/Notarization 2024:

                  Does this Notarytool replace the codesign/Notarization process described in the KVR post?

                  The KVR post was updated to use the notary tool.

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                  • orangeO
                    orange @DanH
                    last edited by

                    @DanH said in Codesigning/Notarization 2024:

                    @orange do you notarize your vst3 & au files?

                    Since I always distribute plugins with the installer (Whitebox Packages), yes I do.

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                    • d.healeyD
                      d.healey @orange
                      last edited by

                      @orange You only need to notarize the installer and it applies to the binaries too.

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                      • orangeO
                        orange @d.healey
                        last edited by

                        @d-healey said in Codesigning/Notarization 2024:

                        @orange You only need to notarize the installer and it applies to the binaries too.

                        I already mentioned this above, yes, that's how I do it anyway. In other words, if the installer is being distributed, re-notarization is required with each update.

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                        • d.healeyD
                          d.healey @orange
                          last edited by

                          @orange oh I read it like you were notarizing your plugins in addition to the installer.

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                          • orangeO
                            orange @d.healey
                            last edited by

                            @d-healey I think the above statements may cause confusion for some folks.

                            @Sampletekk In short, (since you will be distributing your products with installer), you need to notarize the installer every time you update the product version.

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                            • S
                              Sampletekk
                              last edited by Sampletekk

                              There are three processes here, (I think): Notarization, Codesigning and Stapling.
                              With the Notary tool, as I understand it, you don't need codesigning anymore, correct?
                              Also, as I understand, Notarization is when you make it so that Macs gatekeeper doesn't throw a warning that the application comes from an unauthorized developer.
                              What does "staple" and "codesigning (if it's still needed)" do?

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                              • d.healeyD
                                d.healey @Sampletekk
                                last edited by

                                @Sampletekk said in Codesigning/Notarization 2024:

                                With the Notary tool, as I understand it, you don't need codesigning anymore, correct?

                                You codesign your plugins/apps.
                                You codesign and notarize your installer - stapling is part of the notarization process

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                                • orangeO
                                  orange @Sampletekk
                                  last edited by orange

                                  @Sampletekk said in Codesigning/Notarization 2024:

                                  What does "staple" and "codesigning (if it's still needed)" do?

                                  Plugins and installers containing plugins must be codesigned. Staple is the process performed after notarization.

                                  So you have to follow the steps below if you want to distribute plugins for macOS:

                                  Export your plugin with HISE --> Codesign plugin --> Create an installer app --> Codesign the installer app --> Notarize the installer app --> Staple the installer app

                                  Then your plugins will be able to run on DAWs on macOS without any Gatekeeper issues.

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                                  • clevername27C
                                    clevername27 @Sampletekk
                                    last edited by

                                    @Sampletekk Are you still having issues?

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                                    • J
                                      johnmike
                                      last edited by

                                      I know this may muddy the waters a bit...but ive actually never code signed my VST3/AU...only my AAX because its required...Ive only ever codesigned the .PKG when I was using those and the Standalone app(via apple's signing/ notarizing in Xcode) now I have a custom installer that I built and I only have to codesign/Notirize it via Xcode(not via the terminal) and I dont worry about the cosigning any of the individual binaries...and all my plugins run just fine for my users...

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