Some questions about the effects
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I'm using the download binary, maybe these are covered in the latest build, maybe these have to be scripted ?
1 Does the newer source have the ability to compile HISE as a VSTfx as well as VSTi, or indeed a VSTi with inputs, this would make it much easier to work on effects set ups.
2 How do you reorder effects ?
3 The individual VU meter for each effect next to the power button seems to do nothing on some effects ?
4 Analyzer in the parametric is extremely slow refresh, is that normal or just my old MBP ?
5 Stereo FX seems to do nothing here, it doesn't pan as i had assumed.
6 The sound cuts out when adjusting convolution settings.
7 Does the newer source have a link control in the delay ?
8 Does the newer source have soft knee curve adjustment in the limiter ?
9 Does the newer source have more control over samplerate in the degrader (Needed for emulating old samplers) ? also is HISE 16 bit only, I notice the degrader only goes up to 15, would have assumed it went to 16 if the plugin itself was 24 bit capable ?
10 Does the newer source have a mix level in the chorus ?
11 Effect slot just crashes HISE here.
12 Does the newer source have the soft knee control in the dynamics, see above for adjustment too ?Sorry for the long list ;)
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1 Does the newer source have the ability to compile HISE as a VSTfx as well as VSTi
Yes
or indeed a VSTi with inputs, this would make it much easier to work on effects set ups.
Only MIDI input
2 How do you reorder effects ?
Add a new effect and delete the old one. If you want to place an effect before another effect right click on the existing effect's header and select Add processor before this module. You can also copy and paste effects, copy by right clicking the effect's header and select the copy option and when you go to add a new processor you'll have the option to paste. Some effects like filters on the master chain seem to have a fixed position.
3 The individual VU meter for each effect next to the power button seems to do nothing on some effects ?
You'll need to be more specific. Which effects and in what context?
4 Analyzer in the parametric is extremely slow refresh, is that normal or just my old MBP ?
Yup it's slow for me too.
5 Stereo FX seems to do nothing here, it doesn't pan as i had assumed.
Are you using a stereo source?
6 The sound cuts out when adjusting convolution settings.
Which settings? The knobs don't have any smoothing so you might hear artifacts when making adjustments while audio is on the output but I haven't experienced any cutting out.
7 Does the newer source have a link control in the delay ?
Nope, although I'm not sure what you mean by link control
8 Does the newer source have soft knee curve adjustment in the limiter ?
No
9 Does the newer source have more control over samplerate in the degrader (Needed for emulating old samplers) ?
There's a sample rate knob... has a lot of values.
also is HISE 16 bit only, I notice the degrader only goes up to 15, would have assumed it went to 16 if the plugin itself was 24 bit capable ?
HISE is not limited to 16bit audio.
10 Does the newer source have a mix level in the chorus ?
No
11 Effect slot just crashes HISE here.
You're not alone :) This has been reported elsewhere too
12 Does the newer source have the soft knee control in the dynamics, see above for adjustment too ?
No
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OK 1 i wasnt clear with, sorry
What i mean is can the IDE be compiled as a VSTfx or VSTi with audio inputs, right now in the binary download there is a VSTi of HISE (IDE) but it has no audio inputs, so to work on effects, you have to load a sampler and use that to play through the effects.
I didn't mean an option to compile plugins from within HISE as VSTfx, sorry, wasn't very clear.3
filter effect as example5
went to check and there is no waveform hahaha, but possibly not, will test with a stereo file6 Damping/Cut/Pre delay, all cut the audio out
7 Link control links left and right channels.
9 Sample rate knob has nearly non of the values of old samplers, unless it is broken here, i cant even choose one of the most common 32kHz
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What i mean is can the IDE be compiled as a VSTfx or VSTi with audio inputs, right now in the binary download there is a VSTi of HISE (IDE) but it has no audio inputs, so to work on effects, you have to load a sampler and use that to play through the effects.
This or a Looper or a noise generator or a sine wave generator. I actually didn't had the need to route external audio into it, you have plenty of options to create test signals for effect development inside HISE.
2 How do you reorder effects ?
If you use the non-crashing version of Effect Slots that I am about to write in a few hours, you can also use the
swapEffect()call (or something like that) to swap effects between slots - this is a bit more lightweight than actually deleting and inserting new effects.The individual VU meter for each effect next to the power button seems to do nothing on some effects ?
AFAIK it's only the filter, but this is outfall from the issue with the deletion of the monophonic filter. I'll fix that.
5 Stereo FX seems to do nothing here, it doesn't pan as i had assumed.
It get's more interesting if you put a modulator in it. The entire purpose of this module is polyphonic stereo modulation, if you don't intend to modulate, use a SimpleGain module
6 The sound cuts out when adjusting convolution settings.
Yes, any operation that causes a recalculation of the impulse response (changing the length / applying a filter) can't be done on the fly. What you can do is changing the level, this operation is suitable for realtime changes.
7 Does the newer source have a link control in the delay ?
No, but it's trivial to do this via scripting.
8 Does the newer source have soft knee curve adjustment in the limiter ?
No clue, but the Dynamics module is far superior to the old limiter, so I suggest you use that.
also is HISE 16 bit only,
HISE can be 16bit only, but this is a feature not a bug: if the HLAC codec is used (even with its new Full Dynamics mode that provides quasi-24bit), it will use 16bit resolution for all internal buffers and effectively reducing the memory consumption by 50%. Otherwise it resorts to 32bit floating point buffers. If you're targeting iOS this is a killer feature because anything over 350MB for ALL your AUv3 instances together will crash every host.
10 Does the newer source have a mix level in the chorus ?
Nope, but this might also be achieved through a send arrangement.
- Effect slot just crashes HISE here.
Oopsies.
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@Christoph-Hart said in Some questions about the effects:
es, any operation that causes a recalculation of the impulse response (changing the length / applying a filter) can't be done on the fly. What you can do is changing the level, this operation is suitable for realtime changes.
Is it not possible somehow to move at least the predelay without glitches ? Some kind of smoothing on the Slider ?
Maybe its even better to just use a delay on the wet part , use that as predelay ? -
@Christoph-Hart said in Some questions about the effects:
2 How do you reorder effects ?
If you use the non-crashing version of Effect Slots that I am about to write in a few hours, you can also use the
swapEffect()call (or something like that) to swap effects between slots - this is a bit more lightweight than actually deleting and inserting new effects.I've been waiting for that
I just hope it'll be easier to handle, I remember having a hard time with the IDs when swapping in the old fashion
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@ustk said in Some questions about the effects:
u use the non-crashing version of Effect Slots that I am about to write in a few hours, you can also use the swapEffect() call (or something like that) to swap effects between slots - this is a bit more lightweight than actually deleting and inserting new effects.
@Christoph-Hart
Is it viable to now build a FX reorder system with the Effect Slot ? -
bump :)
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@alepan - its working OK for me (touch wood)
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@Lindon Thanks for the info!
