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    • Christoph HartC
      Christoph Hart @Soundavid
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      Alright, I think the timestretching is ready for testing so anyone that wants to check it out should pull the feature/time_stretching branch.

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      There's a simple core.stretch_player node that can pitch / stretch a single audio file and the sampler module has a timestretching parameter that can be set to different modes.

      It's highly experimental and you might experience glitches with different samplerates / buffer sizes, but feel free to play around and let me know how it works / sounds for you.

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      • d.healeyD
        d.healey @Christoph Hart
        last edited by d.healey

        @Christoph-Hart Yippeee! Will give this a go very soon. Did you manage to optimize the FFT stuff?

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        • Christoph HartC
          Christoph Hart @d.healey
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          @d-healey yes I swapped the fft with the juce wrapper which uses IPP / vdsp / FFTW. However the performance on my Windows system was already pretty good (about 2% per voice).

          I‘m curious how the sound quality holds up against the alternatives - in my tests it‘s pretty good.

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          • d.healeyD
            d.healey
            last edited by d.healey

            I'm getting some errors, I'll post some below. They are all in the same file, pixman-arm-neon-asm.h.

            In file included from ../../../../../HISE/hi_sampler/sampler/components/SamplerSettings.cpp:20,
                             from ../../../../../HISE/hi_sampler/hi_sampler.cpp:56,
                             from ../../JuceLibraryCode/include_hi_sampler.cpp:9:
            ../../../../../HISE/hi_rlottie/src/vector/pixman/pixman-arm-neon-asm.h:214:27: error: stray ‘#’ in program
              214 |     mov     TMP1, VX, asr #16
                  |                           ^
            ../../../../../HISE/hi_rlottie/src/vector/pixman/pixman-arm-neon-asm.h:218:42: error: stray ‘#’ in program
              218 |     add     TMP1, mem_operand, TMP1, asl #1
                  |                                          ^
            ../../../../../HISE/hi_rlottie/src/vector/pixman/pixman-arm-neon-asm.h:219:27: error: stray ‘#’ in program
            

            Huh actually it's really weird because that file hasn't changed since you added it...

            Oh I get it, it's something to do with the include in SamplerSettings, but I don't know what...

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            • d.healeyD
              d.healey
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              Meh I commented out the line and it compiled just fine.

              I'm using FFTW, the time stretching sounds really good. With a guitar loop I'm getting a little bit of what I'd call a bassy humming sound when it's stretched but with a percussive loop there are no issues.

              Here's some of the loops I'm testing with - https://e.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZji1BZ3qTkeAWhYWkoVhYP2yNmVpaFRtIy

              The bug where HISE's internal BPM is off by 10 is still there. When the project is compiled though it's fine.

              Is it possible to go down to 25%? I know it won't be as "pleasant" but can be useful for more sound design stuff.

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              • Christoph HartC
                Christoph Hart @d.healey
                last edited by

                @d-healey haha, I'm using a new tool within VisualStudio (Resharper C++) and I think I've pressed a wrong shortcut and it inserted this completely idiotic include statement. I also got the compilation errors but I thought it was a glitch so I removed the file locally...

                I can't reproduce the BPM issue - is this Linux only?

                And yes the timestretching algorithm can cope with extreme ratios (and it even starts to randomize the phase outside of the 0.5...2.0 range to get a PaulStretch-like sound. I've just added this limitation arbitrarily so I don't have to deal with buffers that get too big...

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                • d.healeyD
                  d.healey @Christoph Hart
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                  @Christoph-Hart Yeah it could be a Linux thing, I haven't tested on other systems.

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                    audiolyf @Christoph Hart
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                    @Christoph-Hart Very cool! Where can we poke around to lower the limit? And is there a way to reach the stretch ratio of the Sampler module via scripting ?

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                    • Christoph HartC
                      Christoph Hart @audiolyf
                      last edited by

                      And is there a way to reach the stretch ratio of the Sampler module via scripting ?

                      Sure:

                      Sampler.setTimestretchRatio(newRatio);
                      
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                      • Christoph HartC
                        Christoph Hart @Christoph Hart
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                        I've updated the docs to include a chapter about how it works:

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                        • d.healeyD
                          d.healey @Christoph Hart
                          last edited by

                          @Lindon Need to update your VI thread :)

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                          • ulrikU
                            ulrik @Christoph Hart
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                            @Christoph-Hart Much appreciated Christoph! 🍺

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                              audiolyf @Christoph Hart
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                              @Christoph-Hart Nice! Is getTimestretchOptions() not implemented yet?

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                              • d.healeyD
                                d.healey @audiolyf
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                                @audiolyf I can see it in the repo - https://github.com/christophhart/HISE/commit/3c8711f0713f445d197fa6b7d8f9e4819de114f6#diff-92b4316aaf5f04995603daa0550fbbb9156f53dbb5061d9608eacb18fb356d73

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                                  Lumi283
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                                  Thank you Christoph Hart for this feature. My project was stuck, but now the problem is solved! Don't you think @d-healey that it would be interesting to offer a tutorial on your YouTube channel to explain how to properly implement time stretching? It could help more than one person.
                                  Thanks,
                                  Remi Dufeu

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                                    audiolyf @d.healey
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                                    @d-healey Pulled the branch yesterday and everything else is there but I'm getting function not found both with getSampler and getChildSynth

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                                    • d.healeyD
                                      d.healey @audiolyf
                                      last edited by

                                      @audiolyf Maybe you pulled before Christoph added it?

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                                      • LindonL
                                        Lindon @d.healey
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                                        @d-healey said in Timestretching/Pitchshifting:

                                        @Lindon Need to update your VI thread :)

                                        Done!

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                                        • d.healeyD
                                          d.healey @Lumi283
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                                          @ABYSS_CO said in Timestretching/Pitchshifting:

                                          Don't you think @d-healey that it would be interesting to offer a tutorial on your YouTube channel to explain how to properly implement time stretching?

                                          Definitely, once it's a little more mature.

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                                          • Christoph HartC
                                            Christoph Hart @d.healey
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                                            @d-healey there‘s not much to show in a tutorial - just turn on timestretching and set the ratio…

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