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    • Christoph HartC
      Christoph Hart @resonant
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      @resonant yeah I wrote them for an NFR but never heard back, then I stopped caring.

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      • d.healeyD
        d.healey @Christoph Hart
        last edited by

        @Christoph-Hart Have you used up your free trial?

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        • orangeO
          orange @Christoph Hart
          last edited by

          @Christoph-Hart said in Calling multiple functions with delay on a Knob's Callback:

          @resonant yeah I wrote them for an NFR but never heard back, then I stopped caring.

          They have changed their NFR License section lately. The new system is very cool and easy to use/update, their response is now quick. Maybe giving a one more shot would be useful.

          develop Branch / XCode 13.1
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          • DanHD
            DanH @orange
            last edited by

            @orange is there a form we can fill out or specific email to contact? Or just their info@ one?

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            • orangeO
              orange @DanH
              last edited by

              @DanH Just using the website support ticket system worked here.

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              • resonantR
                resonant
                last edited by

                Still no luck :/

                If there is no fix for this for now, what can we do as an alternative shortcut hack?

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                • ulrikU
                  ulrik @resonant
                  last edited by

                  @resonant based on the snippet from @Christoph-Hart , this will make sure all functions will be executed, and in the right order, even if you touch the knob.

                  You say you have a lot of knobs and functions to be executed, so maybe this is not an alternative for your project but anyway, here's my go for it...

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                  • resonantR
                    resonant @ulrik
                    last edited by resonant

                    @ulrik Thank you for the suggestion.

                    Maybe there are other methods instead of delaying functions to prevent multi instance crash.

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                    • orangeO
                      orange @resonant
                      last edited by orange

                      @resonant said in Calling multiple functions with delay on a Knob's Callback:

                      Maybe there are other methods instead of delaying functions to prevent multi instance crash.

                      I've been seeing this issue for a while. I've made a few suggestions here for this problem: https://forum.hise.audio/topic/3677/multi-instance-daw-crash-issue-guide?_=1680361788380

                      Apart from these, my suggestion is: if you are using more than one setAttribute calls at the same time and if you are sure exactly where the crash comes from the code (it's generally where you used multiple setAttribute methods mostly or on the Oversampling function), it may sound a bit silly, but I recommend placing setBypassed between the setAttribute lines :) For example for a Simple Gain or Curve EQ module.

                      I discovered that adding setBypassed interestingly reduces bottlenecks caused by multiple setAttribute lines. Especially watch out the Oversampling functions. It's worth a try.

                      BTW, assigning setBypassed to a Knob will cause errors while turning the knob. But you can assign it to a Button, or ComboBox.

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                      macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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                      • d.healeyD
                        d.healey
                        last edited by

                        Can you reduce the number of setAttribute calls by connecting through processor/parameter id instead?

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                        • resonantR
                          resonant @orange
                          last edited by

                          @orange said in Calling multiple functions with delay on a Knob's Callback:

                          @resonant said in Calling multiple functions with delay on a Knob's Callback:

                          I discovered that adding setBypassed interestingly reduces bottlenecks caused by multiple setAttribute lines. Especially watch out the Oversampling functions. It's worth a try.

                          I'll try this, Thanks!

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                          • resonantR
                            resonant @d.healey
                            last edited by

                            @d-healey said in Calling multiple functions with delay on a Knob's Callback:

                            Can you reduce the number of setAttribute calls by connecting through processor/parameter id instead?

                            Unfortunately not. Because in this project, I use multiple modulations with one knob.

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                            • ?
                              A Former User @Christoph Hart
                              last edited by A Former User

                              @Christoph-Hart said in Calling multiple functions with delay on a Knob's Callback:

                              I've pushed an experimental build flag that might help with the issue. Please pull HISE and export your plugin with the HI_DONT_SEND_ATTRIBUTE_UPDATES flag set in your Extradefinitions. This should deactivate the internal messaging and hopefully fix the crash. Let me know if that helped.

                              This flag should be used like this, right?

                              HI_DONT_SEND_ATTRIBUTE_UPDATES=1
                              
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                              • ustkU
                                ustk @A Former User
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                                @harris-rosendahl I guess that's how it should be used...

                                Can't help pressing F5 in the forum...

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                                • resonantR
                                  resonant @orange
                                  last edited by

                                  @orange said in Calling multiple functions with delay on a Knob's Callback:

                                  Especially watch out the Oversampling functions.

                                  After doing tons of testing, I found that using the Engine.getMilliSecondsForSamples() function is one of the causes of the multi instance crashes.

                                  I've used this after declaring the delay compensation with Engine.setLatencySamples() for compensating the delay with a simple gain's delay parameter when the Oversampling is off. So when the Oversampling is off, I am giving the exact sample delay (that we declared via delay compensation) with a Simple Gain unit like this: SimpleGain.setAttribute(SimpleGain.Delay, Engine.getMilliSecondsForSamples(4));

                                  But it seems that method causes the crashes. Maybe getting the sample rate multiple times on a multi instance DAW project? I don't know.

                                  Then I created a SN network like the below which converts the sample delay directly with converter, the crash is gone :) :

                                  Screen Shot 2023-04-19 at 15.45.51.png

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