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    • Matt_SFM
      Matt_SF @ulrik
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      @ulrik I think Synth.addNoteOn() - basically - adds a noteOn event to the message thread and Synth.playNote() actually plays a real note.

      Someone, please correct me if I'm wrong because I've always had a hard time wrapping my head around midi events 🤓

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        ulrik @Matt_SF
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        @Matt_SF said in trigger the Arpeggiator with artificial noteons:

        @ulrik I think Synth.addNoteOn() - basically - adds a noteOn event to the message thread and Synth.playNote() actually plays a real note.

        Someone, please correct me if I'm wrong because I've always had a hard time wrapping my head around midi events 🤓

        Oh, ok sounds interesting :)

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        • ulrikU
          ulrik @Matt_SF
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          @Matt_SF no luck with

          Synth.playNote()
          

          it seems to make no difference.

          Why is the Arp triggered if I run a MidiPlayer but not if I use

          Synth.playNote()
          or
          Synth.addNoteOn()
          

          I'm running both from the same place in hierarchy.
          It's like the MidiPlayer sends it's midi events via another buffer, or something, I don't get it, I have to get one of @d-healey,s t-shirts I guess :)

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            Soundavid @ulrik
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            @ulrik I think the Synth functions works on the Synth modules and is not generating any message, maybe you need the Messageholder functions instead.

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            • ulrikU
              ulrik @Soundavid
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              @Soundavid Ok, do you have an example of how to do that?

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              • d.healeyD
                d.healey
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                What about adding a synth module and enabling this setting?

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                • ulrikU
                  ulrik @d.healey
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                  @d-healey I have it enabled already.

                  My standalone Hise is compiled with this setting enabled and I think that is why it will not trigger synth modules, modulators or containers

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                  • LindonL
                    Lindon @d.healey
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                    @d-healey said in trigger the Arpeggiator with artificial noteons:

                    What about adding a synth module and enabling this setting?

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                    what exactly does this do in an FX plugin?

                    I ask because I'm looking for a way to include Poly waveshaper in my FX plugin...

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                    • d.healeyD
                      d.healey @Lindon
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                      @Lindon I know no more than this:

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                      • d.healeyD
                        d.healey @ulrik
                        last edited by

                        @ulrik said in trigger the Arpeggiator with artificial noteons:

                        @d-healey I have it enabled already.

                        My standalone Hise is compiled with this setting enabled and I think that is why it will not trigger synth modules, modulators or containers

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                        What is a MIDI effect plugin in this context? HISE doesn't have MIDI out does it?

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                        • ulrikU
                          ulrik @d.healey
                          last edited by ulrik

                          @d-healey said in trigger the Arpeggiator with artificial noteons:

                          @ulrik said in trigger the Arpeggiator with artificial noteons:

                          @d-healey I have it enabled already.

                          My standalone Hise is compiled with this setting enabled and I think that is why it will not trigger synth modules, modulators or containers

                          Skärmavbild 2022-08-07 kl. 18.00.03.png

                          What is a MIDI effect plugin in this context? HISE doesn't have MIDI out does it?

                          Yes it has midi out, when compiled as a midifx plugin.
                          I know you use Reaper and a midifx plugin is inserted before an instrument and sends its midi events to the instrument.

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                          • LindonL
                            Lindon @ulrik
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                            @d-healey

                            but see this:

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                            • d.healeyD
                              d.healey @ulrik
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                              @ulrik said in trigger the Arpeggiator with artificial noteons:

                              Yes it has midi out, when compiled as a midifx plugin.

                              Oh I didn't realise! Excellent.

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                                Soundavid @ulrik
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                                @ulrik I don't have a clear example right know but the Synth.PlayNote(); works when the Arpeggiator is inside a ChildSynth, but if you try the Message.setNoteNumber(); the Arpeggiator will work fine outside, the problem here is that you want to play a chord but if you review the API the Message and MessageHolder functions have things like MakeArtificial(); so maybe you want to start there.

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