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    • ulrikU
      ulrik @Matt_SF
      last edited by

      @Matt_SF thanks for checking!

      Yes that's what I've done but the Arp doesn't respond to it, I didn't use the Synth.playNote() though, I used the Synth.addNoteon..., maybe there is a difference between those commands, I'll check it.

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      • Matt_SFM
        Matt_SF @ulrik
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        @ulrik I think Synth.addNoteOn() - basically - adds a noteOn event to the message thread and Synth.playNote() actually plays a real note.

        Someone, please correct me if I'm wrong because I've always had a hard time wrapping my head around midi events 🤓

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        • ulrikU
          ulrik @Matt_SF
          last edited by

          @Matt_SF said in trigger the Arpeggiator with artificial noteons:

          @ulrik I think Synth.addNoteOn() - basically - adds a noteOn event to the message thread and Synth.playNote() actually plays a real note.

          Someone, please correct me if I'm wrong because I've always had a hard time wrapping my head around midi events 🤓

          Oh, ok sounds interesting :)

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          • ulrikU
            ulrik @Matt_SF
            last edited by

            @Matt_SF no luck with

            Synth.playNote()
            

            it seems to make no difference.

            Why is the Arp triggered if I run a MidiPlayer but not if I use

            Synth.playNote()
            or
            Synth.addNoteOn()
            

            I'm running both from the same place in hierarchy.
            It's like the MidiPlayer sends it's midi events via another buffer, or something, I don't get it, I have to get one of @d-healey,s t-shirts I guess :)

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              Soundavid @ulrik
              last edited by Soundavid

              @ulrik I think the Synth functions works on the Synth modules and is not generating any message, maybe you need the Messageholder functions instead.

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              • ulrikU
                ulrik @Soundavid
                last edited by

                @Soundavid Ok, do you have an example of how to do that?

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                • d.healeyD
                  d.healey
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                  What about adding a synth module and enabling this setting?

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                  • ulrikU
                    ulrik @d.healey
                    last edited by

                    @d-healey I have it enabled already.

                    My standalone Hise is compiled with this setting enabled and I think that is why it will not trigger synth modules, modulators or containers

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                    • LindonL
                      Lindon @d.healey
                      last edited by Lindon

                      @d-healey said in trigger the Arpeggiator with artificial noteons:

                      What about adding a synth module and enabling this setting?

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                      what exactly does this do in an FX plugin?

                      I ask because I'm looking for a way to include Poly waveshaper in my FX plugin...

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                      • d.healeyD
                        d.healey @Lindon
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                        @Lindon I know no more than this:

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                        • d.healeyD
                          d.healey @ulrik
                          last edited by

                          @ulrik said in trigger the Arpeggiator with artificial noteons:

                          @d-healey I have it enabled already.

                          My standalone Hise is compiled with this setting enabled and I think that is why it will not trigger synth modules, modulators or containers

                          Skärmavbild 2022-08-07 kl. 18.00.03.png

                          What is a MIDI effect plugin in this context? HISE doesn't have MIDI out does it?

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                          • ulrikU
                            ulrik @d.healey
                            last edited by ulrik

                            @d-healey said in trigger the Arpeggiator with artificial noteons:

                            @ulrik said in trigger the Arpeggiator with artificial noteons:

                            @d-healey I have it enabled already.

                            My standalone Hise is compiled with this setting enabled and I think that is why it will not trigger synth modules, modulators or containers

                            Skärmavbild 2022-08-07 kl. 18.00.03.png

                            What is a MIDI effect plugin in this context? HISE doesn't have MIDI out does it?

                            Yes it has midi out, when compiled as a midifx plugin.
                            I know you use Reaper and a midifx plugin is inserted before an instrument and sends its midi events to the instrument.

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                            • LindonL
                              Lindon @ulrik
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                              @d-healey

                              but see this:

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                              Midi Effects Plugins in Ableton Live

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                              • d.healeyD
                                d.healey @ulrik
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                                @ulrik said in trigger the Arpeggiator with artificial noteons:

                                Yes it has midi out, when compiled as a midifx plugin.

                                Oh I didn't realise! Excellent.

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                                  Soundavid @ulrik
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                                  @ulrik I don't have a clear example right know but the Synth.PlayNote(); works when the Arpeggiator is inside a ChildSynth, but if you try the Message.setNoteNumber(); the Arpeggiator will work fine outside, the problem here is that you want to play a chord but if you review the API the Message and MessageHolder functions have things like MakeArtificial(); so maybe you want to start there.

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