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      MIDIculous
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      Is there a way to test out the Monolith/Samplemap (XML) in Hise, without having to compile a complete VST or standalone. It would be nice to be able to use Hise to test out the Monolith/Samplemap after creating it from Batch.

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        d.healey @MIDIculous
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        @midiculous Right click in the sample map window and select load sample map.

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          MIDIculous
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          Ok Thanks....Just what I thought. There is a bug in the Batch Samplemap creator for some reason with a couple of samples. When I Load the samples manually and map via metadata it looks fine, but when I do a batch Convert all Samplemaps to Monoliths, the mapping comes out bad. See attached images Before and After...

          These are the same exact Samples. When I map using the Batch, it creates a bad mapping data.

          1_1533024091137_Screen Shot 2018-07-31 at 3.58.27 AM.png 0_1533024091136_Screen Shot 2018-07-31 at 3.59.22 AM.png

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            d.healey @MIDIculous
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            @midiculous Do you get the same results when you save the sample map and monolith manually?

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              MIDIculous @d.healey
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              @d-healey No I don't....When doing it manually it works fine. I've tried this over and over and it's something very weird.

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                d.healey @MIDIculous
                last edited by d.healey

                @midiculous Definitely seems like a bug, is this in the latest version from github?

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                  MIDIculous @d.healey
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                  @d-healey Yes it's the latest version. I've also noticed that saving as a Monolith creates an XML file, instead of a .ch1. See attached. When saving as a monolith, it creates an XML.

                  0_1533036215434_Screen Shot 2018-07-31 at 7.11.40 AM.png

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                    MIDIculous
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                    I hope @Christoph-Hart can address this soon. I really can't do anything with my project without the ability to make samplemaps correctly and I have way to many to do things one-by-one.

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                      MIDIculous
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                      Bump....Still can't do any batch conversions. I can't believe I'm the only one that can't do batch conversions. It crashes all the time.

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                        Dan Korneff
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                        Most of my issues have been with SampleMaps in the past. I've currently put my HISE scripting on hold while I tinker with GUI. I'm sure this will haunt me in the near future.

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                          MIDIculous @Dan Korneff
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                          @dustbro said in Testing an .ch1 Monolith and Samplemap in Hise:

                          Most of my issues have been with SampleMaps in the past. I've currently put my HISE scripting on hold while I tinker with GUI. I'm sure this will haunt me in the near future.

                          @dustbro Are you on a Mac or Windows

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                            Christoph Hart
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                            The problem with the monolith converter is that is only useful for importing samples exported with Keymap Pro, which doesn't even run on newer macOS versions anymore. So yes, you are the only one using it and I am not all too motivated to support software that was deliberately killed by Apple.

                            If you need it, you can go back in time and try one of the older HISE versions (check out the 1.0.0 version maybe, the sample map format hasn't changed since then), but with the new threading model I would have to explicitly add a edge case and keep on testing it that it doesn't break with new features, which is too much of a burden for such a exotic thing.

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                              MIDIculous @Christoph Hart
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                              @christoph-hart said in Testing an .ch1 Monolith and Samplemap in Hise:

                              The problem with the monolith converter is that is only useful for importing samples exported with Keymap Pro, which doesn't even run on newer macOS versions anymore. So yes, you are the only one using it and I am not all too motivated to support software that was deliberately killed by Apple.

                              If you need it, you can go back in time and try one of the older HISE versions (check out the 1.0.0 version maybe, the sample map format hasn't changed since then), but with the new threading model I would have to explicitly add a edge case and keep on testing it that it doesn't break with new features, which is too much of a burden for such a exotic thing.

                              Keymap is a software tool....The samples being converted are simple AIF with INST Chunk Meta Data. This is standard across all samplers and industry. Keymap is only a tool to edit the samples, but the final output is an AIF file with INST chunk meta data in it, which UVI, Kontakt, and most other samplers support.

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                                MIDIculous @Christoph Hart
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                                @christoph-hart Does anyone have an idea on how to convert hundreds of samples to monolith? How are others doing it...One by One? If an AIF with Meta data is "unsupported" or Old school, then please share what is the new way of converting samples/instruments in 2018?

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                                  d.healey @MIDIculous
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                                  @midiculous I just map my samples, then save the same map and then right-click the mapping editor, go to save as, and select save as monolith.

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                                    MIDIculous @d.healey
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                                    @d-healey And I'm assuming you don't have hundreds of these to do?

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                                      d.healey @MIDIculous
                                      last edited by d.healey

                                      @midiculous about 40 sample maps for my current project. 1000s of samples though.

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                                        MIDIculous @d.healey
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                                        @d-healey My last project had 1000 SampleMaps and the current project has 458. So doing that by hand is a nightmare. Luckily for some strange reason the current project was able to product the HLAC in batch without crashing, but that was one in a million. The batch crashes 90% of the time.

                                        I'll figure out another way...

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                                        • d.healeyD
                                          d.healey @MIDIculous
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                                          @midiculous That's a lot of sample maps! How many samples?

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