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    • LindonL
      Lindon @ustk
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      @ustk but as that folder only exists on the users drive at install - where would you put them to start with such that they ended up there? Answer: there is no-where , except now of course they can go in the Extensions folder structure

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      • ustkU
        ustk @Lindon
        last edited by

        @Lindon Not sure I'm on the right way, but you can create the folders at install time before the plugin is launched for the first time, so you have the possibility to place the json with the installer

        Can't help pressing F5 in the forum...

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        • LindonL
          Lindon @ustk
          last edited by

          @ustk yes clearly I could do this in the installer. Im trying NOT to do that. The extensions folder is a solution though.

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          • d.healeyD
            d.healey @Lindon
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            @Lindon You'll need to do a similar custom installer thing with expansions too since there is no in-built expansion installer.

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            • LindonL
              Lindon @d.healey
              last edited by

              @d-healey -- oh no! really? damn. OK @Christoph-Hart back to my original feature request then, can we have a way to ship , within the normal compile - ship process, a folder of "useful stuff" for a given product.

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              • d.healeyD
                d.healey
                last edited by

                I was going to create a new topic but then saw this one so I thought I'd revive it.

                I have some data files (jsons) that I don't want to include as script files and I don't want to put them in the user presets folder (because that's a weird place to put them).

                These files are not part of an expansion.

                Expansions have an additional source code folder where we can put arbitrary files which we can access at run-time. Could this be extended to the project's additional source code folder? Maybe a sub-folder called data or something. And we'd get a function like Engine.listDataFiles() like we have for expansions.

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                • LindonL
                  Lindon @d.healey
                  last edited by

                  @d-healey said in Feature Request:Data Folder:

                  I was going to create a new topic but then saw this one so I thought I'd revive it.

                  I have some data files (jsons) that I don't want to include as script files and I don't want to put them in the user presets folder (because that's a weird place to put them).

                  These files are not part of an expansion.

                  Expansions have an additional source code folder where we can put arbitrary files which we can access at run-time. Could this be extended to the project's additional source code folder? Maybe a sub-folder called data or something. And we'd get a function like Engine.listDataFiles() like we have for expansions.

                  @d-healey can you not use the File API to get this?

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                  • d.healeyD
                    d.healey @Lindon
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                    @Lindon I can achieve the goal of loading a json file using the File API but it's not the same as what I'm asking for ;)

                    To use the FileAPI I would have to know the location of the file, using some post install script hackery I could probably add the files to the user's system where I want them, but that's not as straightforward as just using Engine.loadDataFile(); - Which for some reason looks in the user presets folder.

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                    • LindonL
                      Lindon @d.healey
                      last edited by

                      @d-healey true enough..add my vote(again)

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                      • Christoph HartC
                        Christoph Hart @Lindon
                        last edited by

                        What's wrong with

                        FileSystem.getFolder(FileSystem.AppData).goCrazy()
                        
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                        • d.healeyD
                          d.healey @Christoph Hart
                          last edited by

                          @Christoph-Hart Scroll up to my last post ;)

                          With the additional source code folder I add the file at the time I create my plugin. With the appdata method I have to run a separate post install script to add the files where I want them.

                          If I put the files inside the user presets folder are they automatically unpacked when the user runs the plugin?

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                          • Christoph HartC
                            Christoph Hart @d.healey
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                            Still don't understand the problem.

                            1. If you don't want to include the files in your plugin, you need to copy them with the installer
                            2. If you don't want to copy them in the installer, you need to include the files in your plugin (and extract them on the first startup when they are not there).
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                            • d.healeyD
                              d.healey @Christoph Hart
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                              @Christoph-Hart said in Feature Request:Data Folder:

                              1. If you don't want to copy them in the installer, you need to include the files in your plugin (and extract them on the first startup when they are not there).

                              This is what I want - are you saying if I put data files inside the userPresets folder then they will be extracted along with the user presets when the plugin is first launched? If I add new files in a future update will they also be extracted?

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                              • Christoph HartC
                                Christoph Hart @d.healey
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                                @d-healey No you need to implement this yourself.

                                const var dataFile = FileSystem.getFolder(FileSystem.AppData).getChildFile("MyData.json");
                                
                                const var initialData = { "Something": true };
                                
                                if(!dataFile.existsAsFile())
                                {
                                    dataFile.writeObject(initialData);
                                }
                                
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                                • LindonL
                                  Lindon @Christoph Hart
                                  last edited by Lindon

                                  @d-healey -yeah its a right pain to have to do every time you want some data shipping with you product ...

                                  @Christoph-Hart - whats this?

                                  .existsAsFile()
                                  

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                                  • d.healeyD
                                    d.healey @Christoph Hart
                                    last edited by d.healey

                                    @Christoph-Hart If I put data files in the UserPresets folder I can access them with Engine.loadFromJSON() can't I? This has been here long before the File/FileSystem APIs.

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                                    • Christoph HartC
                                      Christoph Hart @Lindon
                                      last edited by

                                      @Lindon sorry, meant isFile().

                                      If I put data files in the UserPresets folder I can access them with Engine.loadDataFile() can't I?

                                      Yes, but that's ancient and useless. :)

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                                      • d.healeyD
                                        d.healey @Christoph Hart
                                        last edited by

                                        @Christoph-Hart lol How about redirecting the ancient and useless function to the additionalSourceCode folder so it works the same as it does for expansions? :) Then I don't have to mess about with post install scripts and the file/filesystem api.

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                                        • Christoph HartC
                                          Christoph Hart @d.healey
                                          last edited by

                                          @d-healey no. AdditionalSourceCode is additional source code that gets compiled. Why would I include that folder into the binary?

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                                          • d.healeyD
                                            d.healey @Christoph Hart
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                                            @Christoph-Hart said in Feature Request:Data Folder:

                                            @d-healey no. AdditionalSourceCode is additional source code that gets compiled. Why would I include that folder into the binary?

                                            Hmm I'm thinking of how it works for expansions where we can put any files and access them with the .loadDataFile function. We don't have anything similar when not using expansions.

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