Has the modulation system been "fixed" ?

crd

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ustk

@christoph-hart In your snippet above, only the first parameter still has the skewFactor available in the Edit Parameter popup.

This is something I mentioned a while ago, and to get them back I had to modify the XML...
5th point here: https://forum.hise.audio/topic/4555/scriptnode-bugs?_=1636907072550
It is not just about the skewFactor, it also happens sometimes to the value

But this apparently happened to you too, or is it when importing the snippet here that they disappear?

crd

@Christoph-Hart

~~The scriptnode solution you posted is working really well for me and my use case. Thank you!!! I am glad I switched from Kontakt.~~

ustk

@christoph-hart Trying to extend your snippet with a simple LFO, I get a zippy effect I can't get rid of...
As soon as I add more operations after the oscillator, be it internal or global, a zip effect appears.
I tried all fixBlock and/or smoothing config I could with no luck, so I didn't keep them in the snippet.
What do I do wrong???

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ustk

@Christoph-Hart Just seen the new commits, I'll test this asap :thumbs_up:

crd

@christoph-hart

I am having an issue with polyphony with the snippet you shared to modulate a filter cutoff.
Regardless to whether or not I select polyphonic mode or legato with retrigger for the script envelope modulator, I am getting dropped notes. It is mostly happening with block chords.

crd

@christoph-hart said in Has the modulation system been "fixed" ?:

The next step in complexity is to use the native filter module, but add an envelope scriptnode modulator to the frequency modulation, crank up the frequency knob to 20kHz and then create a suitable modulation signal that matches your desired behaviour:

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Is anyone else having issues with polyphony using Christoph's snippet? (If your testing make sure to change the orc from noise to a saw or something.) I am so close yet so far away from having a bipolar mod system....

crd

Would anyone mind testing Christoph's snippet to see if polyphony is consistently working for them with it?

d.healey

@crd Seems to be monophonic here.

crd

@d-healey thank you for confirming.

@Christoph-Hart Is there a way to make your snippet work for polyphony that I'm missing?

crd

@Christoph-Hart Sorry to be a squeaky wheel about this but I really need this functionality to move on with my project.

ustk

@Christoph-Hart Investigating a bit more I found this:

When switching back and forth between poly/mono mode, the parameters are changing in the graph
when saving or exporting snippet with poly mode on, it is always recalled back to mono
for some reason, I even had a 3 notes limit in this example, happening without any particular reason, while it was working when loading it back
In a situation where it wasn't working, I just tried to insert a peak at the end of each chain to find the culprit, but just doing this made the graph to work again
And a whole bunch of erratic poly/mono issues...

Christoph Hart

@ustk Yeah I think I've never switched a scriptnode envelope to monophonic, so I'm not surprised that hell breaks loose if you do this :)

crd

@christoph-hart Regardless of the filter setting polyphony is wonky.

crd

@Christoph-Hart
Is there anyway to get a scriptnode envelope to modulate a filter cutoff before I try and rebuild this system another way?

DabDab

@ustk Good to see you on Youtube. Your Voice Quality is pretty Amazing.

Christoph Hart

Alright, the monophonic / retrigger glitches should be gone now, but I noticed that there are quite a few hiccups - the smoothed parameter has no polyphonic state.

Also I need to check whether the monophonic envelope parameter messes with the scriptnode polyphony system, so it's better left untouched for now.

crd

@christoph-hart

Should I try another approach like a scriptfx filter with the modulation system built in or is it best to wait for a fix? If a scriptfx filter is best, how do I go about summing the modulation before sending it to the cutoff? Thanks!

A Former User

@dabdab said in Has the modulation system been "fixed" ?:

@ustk Good to see you on Youtube. Your Voice Quality is pretty Amazing.

I agree! Looking forward to Scriptnode Sauce on YT!!!

Christoph Hart

is it best to wait for a fix

This.

Has the modulation system been "fixed" ?

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