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    • Gabriel StroziG
      Gabriel Strozi @DanH
      last edited by Gabriel Strozi

      @DanH said in Changing the start point of the samples by code:

      @Gabriel-Strozi the start point can be modulated:

      Hmmm, really cool! I'll play with this setting!

      Give me a sec and I'll try and make a snippet for the sample length

      Ok, thank you so much! By the way, I never imported a snippet. I need to open a new project for that?

      Brazilian composer, music producer and mechanical engineer. Working in a steel idiophonic instruments sampler.

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      • DanHD
        DanH @Gabriel Strozi
        last edited by

        @Gabriel-Strozi to import a snippet go to File, Import Snippet.

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        So, ignore the sample start modulation that I mentioned before. If that is actve it means that you can't move the Sample End point where you want to. In this snippet the sample start knob works ok but the sample end knob just makes the end point decrease, which ever way yo turn the knob. So it needs more work / someone better at HISE than me to come in and fix it 😆

        But this should be a good jumping off point....

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        • Gabriel StroziG
          Gabriel Strozi
          last edited by

          Nice!! Importing the snippet right now. I'll try to understand and develop from there! Thank you so much!

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          • Gabriel StroziG
            Gabriel Strozi
            last edited by

            I tried a bit to use this SampleStart feature, but when the playback is set to reverse, this parameter works in a strage way.

            I will explore more.

            Brazilian composer, music producer and mechanical engineer. Working in a steel idiophonic instruments sampler.

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            • DanHD
              DanH @Gabriel Strozi
              last edited by DanH

              @Gabriel-Strozi maybe it's better to make new samples of the reverse drums. This way you have more control. When the user clicks 'reverse' the sampler could change sample map, or perhaps have two samplers and switch between them

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              • LindonL
                Lindon @DanH
                last edited by

                @DanH or add different amounts of silence to the shorter samples to make all samples the same length

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                • Gabriel StroziG
                  Gabriel Strozi
                  last edited by

                  I got. The problem is that I already have a User Preset working like Mr. Healey techs, using combobox to change sample maps. To make another samplemap exchange system, would be really hard to me to understand how! I need to think about it and about how big the change on the code would be.

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                  • Gabriel StroziG
                    Gabriel Strozi
                    last edited by Gabriel Strozi

                    Actually, I'm struggling right now to simple change between Normal, One Shot, Reversed and Reverse One Shot. It seems to miss an attribute for that. It's possible to change between this settings by code?

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                    • d.healeyD
                      d.healey
                      last edited by

                      Use a different sampler and sample map for the reverse mode, then you can cut the samples exactly how you need them.

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                      • Gabriel StroziG
                        Gabriel Strozi @d.healey
                        last edited by

                        Use a different sampler and sample map for the reverse mode, then you can cut the samples exactly how you need them.

                        I'll try it! And how can I switch between Normal and One Shot playback? I'm trying to use

                        Sampler1.setAttribute("OneShot", value);
                        

                        But don't work. Any suggestions?

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                        • d.healeyD
                          d.healey @Gabriel Strozi
                          last edited by

                          @Gabriel-Strozi Try Sampler1.setAttribute(Sampler1.OneShot, value)

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                          • Gabriel StroziG
                            Gabriel Strozi
                            last edited by

                            @d-healey said in Changing the start point of the samples on reverse playback mode by code:

                            @Gabriel-Strozi Try Sampler1.setAttribute(Sampler1.OneShot, value)

                            Also didn't work. Nothing changes

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                            • d.healeyD
                              d.healey @Gabriel Strozi
                              last edited by

                              @Gabriel-Strozi You need to get the sampler as a child synth.

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                              • Gabriel StroziG
                                Gabriel Strozi
                                last edited by

                                It worked! Now I just have to cut the samples and create new SampleMaps for the reverse Sampler.

                                Thank you so much!

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                                • d.healeyD
                                  d.healey @Gabriel Strozi
                                  last edited by

                                  @Gabriel-Strozi Don't cut the samples. Just duplicate your sample map and rename it, then shift the start and end times inside HISE. That way you won't have to use extra disk space or RAM as it will share the same samples.

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                                  • DabDabD
                                    DabDab
                                    last edited by DabDab

                                    @d-healey How do I use both Sample Start End Knob and OneShot/Normal button?
                                    If I use const var Sampler1 = Synth.getChildSynth("Sampler1");

                                    Start End Sample and Samplemap CB Not working..

                                    If I use const var Sampler1 = Synth.getSampler("Sampler1");

                                    Normal/Oneshot not working.... How to compensate both scenarios?

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                                    • ulrikU
                                      ulrik @DabDab
                                      last edited by ulrik

                                      @DabDab name them with other names

                                      const var SSynth = Synth.getChildSynth("Sampler1");
                                      
                                      const var SSampler = Synth.getSampler("Sampler1");
                                      

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                                      • DabDabD
                                        DabDab @ulrik
                                        last edited by

                                        @ulrik Ok.. got the logic.. :) (y) Thank you.

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                                        • d.healeyD
                                          d.healey @DabDab
                                          last edited by

                                          @DabDab or use the asSampler function

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                                          • Gabriel StroziG
                                            Gabriel Strozi
                                            last edited by

                                            Getting the sampler with the Synth.getSampler("Sampler1") you can change between Normal/Oneshot using the parameter ID from Module Browser instead of using the parameter name:

                                            Sampler1.setAttribute(10, value);
                                            

                                            The Sampler parameters are:
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                                            It worked for me as well.

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