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    • Matt_SFM
      Matt_SF @Christoph Hart
      last edited by

      @Christoph-Hart Here's the folder. (Don't mind the Math.expr equation, I was just messing around :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: )
      DspNetworks.zip

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      • BrianB
        Brian
        last edited by

        Thank you @Christoph-Hart & @Matt_SF ! ( Just waking up here on North American time ). I'll be on standby to download and test the fixes, super excited to see this work and try some crazy DSP experiments :)

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        • Christoph HartC
          Christoph Hart @Matt_SF
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          @Matt_SF Thanks for the example. It also doesn't work here for a few reasons, some are trivial, some are a bit harder to fix. BTW, I noticed you're using the stk.DelayA node, this is deprecated (I removed the entire stk module). Use the jdsp.jdelay node for a interpolating delay line instead.

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          • Matt_SFM
            Matt_SF @Christoph Hart
            last edited by

            @Christoph-Hart Noted thanks ! Yes this was not meant to be anything, I was just testing something.

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            • Christoph HartC
              Christoph Hart @Matt_SF
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              @Matt_SF said in Snex_node Needs to be wrapped into a compileable DSP Network:

              Yes this was not meant to be anything, I was just testing something.

              Yeah, it would require some Steve Jobs level marketing to monetize this :)

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              • ustkU
                ustk @Christoph Hart
                last edited by

                @Christoph-Hart said in Snex_node Needs to be wrapped into a compileable DSP Network:

                I noticed you're using the stk.DelayA node, this is deprecated (I removed the entire stk module). Use the jdsp.jdelay node for a interpolating delay line instead.

                But jdelay isn't meant to be modulated like DelayA was, right?

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                • Christoph HartC
                  Christoph Hart
                  last edited by Christoph Hart

                  sure, just don't modulate the limit. The core.fix_delay is not the most suitable candidate for modulation as it fades between two delay buffers to avoid pitch shifting, but that's what you want for all chorus, phaser, etc effects.

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                  • ustkU
                    ustk @Christoph Hart
                    last edited by

                    @Christoph-Hart ok so I have to test again, because what I just tried gave me nothing but artifacts and glitches…

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                    • Christoph HartC
                      Christoph Hart
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                      Well it‘s the delay class from JUCE which is used in their chorus and phaser implementations so it‘s supposed to work...

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                      • ustkU
                        ustk @Christoph Hart
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                        @Christoph-Hart Unless I'm doing it wrong:

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                        • Matt_SFM
                          Matt_SF @ustk
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                          @ustk @Christoph-Hart and I noticed the same glitches appears if you modulate the simple gain Delay parameter :

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                          • Christoph HartC
                            Christoph Hart
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                            Unless I'm doing it wrong:

                            Scriptnode 101: if modulating sounds bad, put it in a frame block (or fix8, fix16, whatever works).

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                            • ustkU
                              ustk @Christoph Hart
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                              @Christoph-Hart Of course... Silly me, I used an oversample chain....

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                              • Matt_SFM
                                Matt_SF @Christoph Hart
                                last edited by

                                @Christoph-Hart said in Snex_node Needs to be wrapped into a compileable DSP Network:

                                Unless I'm doing it wrong:

                                Scriptnode 101: if modulating sounds bad, put it in a frame block (or fix8, fix16, whatever works).

                                Mmmhh, we agree that we are talking about putting the jdsp.delay node into a container.frame2_block or a container.fix8_block right ? Because it not working here, so I'm guessing I, now am doing it wrong 😁

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                                • ustkU
                                  ustk @Matt_SF
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                                  @Matt_SF Put the whole thing in it, not just the delay node ;)

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                                    Christoph Hart
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                                    • ustkU
                                      ustk @Christoph Hart
                                      last edited by ustk

                                      @Christoph-Hart What is the main block size decision? (8-16-32..)
                                      Is it the computing charge of the graph, like the more you have to compute, the larger the block should be?

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                                      • Christoph HartC
                                        Christoph Hart
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                                        Yes, at the end it's all about CPU usage, but be aware that these kind of applications are supposed to be compiled into a C++ node, so the performance difference between the different block sizes might not be so huge in the end.

                                        However, if you don't hear artifacts with higher block sizes for the intended use cases, there's no reason to go lower, so the general rule of thumb would be "try the highest block size that doesn't sound bad".

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                                        • Matt_SFM
                                          Matt_SF @ustk
                                          last edited by

                                          @ustk @Christoph-Hart yahooo it works !!! :🕺 :party_popper:
                                          Thank you, thank you, thank you both of you !! I've been failing for weeks, on and off, at finding a solution. I know I still have a lot to learn but this is a problem solved !!
                                          I can finally have a good night sleep... and find another wall to break down :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                                          • BrianB
                                            Brian
                                            last edited by

                                            @Christoph-Hart I think we are going to need some video tutorials from you on this insanely amazing DSP powerhouse you have created ;)
                                            And is the PC SNEX workbench working till you sort out the Mac version?

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