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    • gorangroovesG
      gorangrooves
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      I have not had any issues with sample maps confusing any wav files. After all, the HLAC format is only temporary. The plugin needs to extract it into the raw wav files before they are used.

      I strongly believe that the best user experience is to have a single installer that installs the plugin and all of the samples, hooks them up to the plugin, and has everything ready to go by the time user launches the plugin for the first time. That's the route I will be taking for sure. If you leave a possibility that a user can overlook installing something (like additional samples install), you will likely have additional support requests to deal with.

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      • d.healeyD
        d.healey @gorangrooves
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        @gorangrooves said in What format do you use to distribute plugins+samples?:

        I strongly believe that the best user experience is to have a single installer that installs the plugin and all of the samples,

        Can't be notarized if it's more than 50GB though.

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        • gorangroovesG
          gorangrooves @d.healey
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          @d-healey said in What format do you use to distribute plugins+samples?:

          Can't be notarized if it's more than 50GB though.

          50GB? You have a single library that large?

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          Handy Drums and Handy Grooves
          https://library.gorangrooves.com

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          • d.healeyD
            d.healey @gorangrooves
            last edited by d.healey

            @gorangrooves

            Not yet, but I'm working on it :) There are many libraries from the "big" developers in excess of 50GB (Hans Zimmer strings, for example, is 250GB!).

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            • ustkU
              ustk @gorangrooves
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              @gorangrooves said in What format do you use to distribute plugins+samples?:

              I strongly believe that the best user experience is to have a single installer that installs the plugin and all of the samples

              But the user has to download everything for a simple update?

              Can't help pressing F5 in the forum...

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              • Christoph HartC
                Christoph Hart @gorangrooves
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                @gorangrooves said in What format do you use to distribute plugins+samples?:

                After all, the HLAC format is only temporary. The plugin needs to extract it into the raw wav files before they are used.

                Nope, you're confusing HR1 with HLAC. HR1 is a wrapped FLAC chunk and HLAC is the actual codec that HISE supports natively. There are many advantages of using HLAC over raw wave files, faster loading times, less memory usage & disk space.

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                • gorangroovesG
                  gorangrooves @Christoph Hart
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                  @Christoph-Hart I guess I am :)

                  @ustk said in What format do you use to distribute plugins+samples?:
                  strongly believe that the best user experience is to have a single installer that installs the plugin and all of the samples

                  But the user has to download everything for a simple update?

                  No, they don't if you provide an update as a separate installer only for the plugin. I am having a special WP plugin developed for me that will allow organizing of download files for WooCommerce into folders and subfolders. So, end-user will see one download button for their purchased product, but when they click on it, they get a pop up, so they can pick their OS platform and whether they want full installer or just the update. Such a plugin does not currently exist publicly, so as soon as the final bugs are ironed out, I will make it publicly available for free.

                  Interested?

                  Goran Rista
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                  Handy Drums and Handy Grooves
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                  • ustkU
                    ustk @gorangrooves
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                    @gorangrooves that's what I thought, but does it mean new user will see full installer with old version as long as the updated plugin installer?
                    The WP plugin you mentioned seems a good idea, although I am not working on a sample based instrument yet, but it'll come…

                    Can't help pressing F5 in the forum...

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                    • gorangroovesG
                      gorangrooves
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                      @ustk The idea is to always have an up-to-date full installer (including the samples) for users installing the product for the first time and just a plugin installer for users updating from the previous version.

                      The WP plugin I am developing will enable you to specify what is what, without creating mess and clutter. It even has support for icons for each file and folder.

                      Here is a preview.

                      MY ACCOUNT- downloads 3- click on folder.jpg

                      Goran Rista
                      https://gorangrooves.com

                      Handy Drums and Handy Grooves
                      https://library.gorangrooves.com

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                      • ustkU
                        ustk @gorangrooves
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                        @gorangrooves That makes sense...
                        Your plugin looks very promising :)

                        Can't help pressing F5 in the forum...

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                        • LindonL
                          Lindon @gorangrooves
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                          @gorangrooves - this seems to cover two scenarios..

                          • All new install
                          • plugin update

                          but misses the third:

                          • samples only update..

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                          • orangeO
                            orange @gorangrooves
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                            @gorangrooves said in What format do you use to distribute plugins+samples?:

                            @ustk The idea is to always have an up-to-date full installer (including the samples) for users installing the product for the first time and just a plugin installer for users updating from the previous version.

                            The WP plugin I am developing will enable you to specify what is what, without creating mess and clutter. It even has support for icons for each file and folder.

                            Here is a preview.

                            MY ACCOUNT- downloads 3- click on folder.jpg

                            Looks very useful. Is this compatible with woocommerce?

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                            • gorangroovesG
                              gorangrooves
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                              @Lindon The picture is only for a visual reference. In the actual plugin, you can set any number of folders and files and set their individual icons. So, you can customize to whatever best suits your needs and current situation.

                              @orange Yes. This is only compatible with WooCommerce :) It integrates with their native download system and expands on it. If you disable the plugin, it just goes back to the native display, which is an individual product instance for each downloadable file (messy).

                              Goran Rista
                              https://gorangrooves.com

                              Handy Drums and Handy Grooves
                              https://library.gorangrooves.com

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