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    • Christoph HartC
      Christoph Hart
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      @Lindon said in Notarisation for dummies:

      codesign --deep --force --options runtime --sign "Developer ID Application: your-dev-id (your-dev-id-number)" "/Users/lindon/Desktop/your.app"

      HERO!!!!

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      • orangeO
        orange @Christoph Hart
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        @Christoph-Hart said in Notarisation for dummies:

        Have you enabled the Hardened Runtime properties in the autogenerated Projucer project?

        No. For plugins, my process is this:

        Hise Export plugins > Sign plugins > Build installer > Sign installer > Notarize installer > Time stamp installer

        For the notarization of apps and plugins, you can follow this updated guide: https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=531663

        develop Branch / XCode 13.1
        macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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        • Christoph HartC
          Christoph Hart
          last edited by Christoph Hart

          Yes I did follow the guideline, but forgot to add the --deep --force --options runtime flags when signing the standalone app. All works now.

          Just one minor thing, I couldn't verify the notarisation with Lindons's suggestion, but this approach worked

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          • orangeO
            orange @Christoph Hart
            last edited by orange

            @Christoph-Hart said in Notarisation for dummies:

            Yes I did follow the guideline, but forgot to add the --deep --force --options runtime flags when signing the standalone app. All works now.

            Just one minor thing, I couldn't verify the notarisation with Lindons's suggestion, but this approach worked

            For codesign checking I use this:

            pkgutil --check-signature "/Volumes/Data/My_Installer.pkg"
            

            For notarization checking I use this:

            spctl -a -vvv -t install "/Volumes/Data/My_Installer.pkg"
            

            If the notarization is ok, you should see "accepted" message.


            Both of them should work in your system too.

            develop Branch / XCode 13.1
            macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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            • LindonL
              Lindon @orange
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              @orange - cool. I will add these to my process...

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              • Casey KolbC
                Casey Kolb
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                Just another tidbit for those lay-people like me — I recently discovered this third-party app while trying to learn about notarization: DMG Canvas

                It's a WYSIWYG builder that automatically notarizes and staples your installer using your Apple ID when you build the DMG file. Super clean!

                Casey Kolb
                Founder & CEO of Lunacy Audio
                Composer | Producer | Software Developer

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                • hisefiloH
                  hisefilo @Christoph Hart
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                  @Christoph-Hart I do the @Lindon way. Almost everything the same. I just staple VSTs and AUs before packaging them into a .pkg and I got the "The validate action worked!" on everyone (files by themselves and installers)

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                  • d.healeyD
                    d.healey @hisefilo
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                    @hisefilo You don't need to notarize/staple your plugins. You only need to codesign plugins and notarize/staple the installer.

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                    • hisefiloH
                      hisefilo @d.healey
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                      @d-healey I was loosing my time then!!!! Thanks Dave

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                      • NatanN
                        Natan @d.healey
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                        @d-healey said in Notarisation for dummies:

                        @hisefilo You don't need to notarize/staple your plugins. You only need to codesign plugins and notarize/staple the installer.

                        So Only Code Signing The .Component / .VST Or .VST3 Can Let Us To Distribute The Plugin?
                        Without Installers?

                        So End User Can Drag & Drop The Plugin Into The Folders And Get To Work Right Away?!!!

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                        • d.healeyD
                          d.healey @Natan
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                          @Natanr No. If you are distributing the binaries only then they need to be codesigned and notarized/stapled, but if you are distributing them in a pkg (or a DMG that contains a pkg) then you only need to notarize the pkg. This is according to the famous KVR post - https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=531663

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                            adriano @d.healey
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                            @d-healey at the risk of a pass for an ignorant, what is the use of notarization? if my .vst or .au plugin is not notarized it will not work? I am under catalina and my plugins are working fine. it's just a legal obligation is it?

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                            • Christoph HartC
                              Christoph Hart
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                              The end user will see a passive-aggressive popup from macOS that suggests your software is full of viruses unless you notarize.

                              It isn't a show stopper (AFAIK you can still run the installer by right-clicking and choosing Open from the context menu) but you need to prepare to answer a few more customer support emails than you should have to...

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                                adriano @Christoph Hart
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                                @Christoph-Hart however i have already given my plugins and vst to friends to try and they had no problem installing. logic asks that the plugin be checked but we can activate it anyway.

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                                • d.healeyD
                                  d.healey @adriano
                                  last edited by

                                  @adriano are they using Catalina?

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                                  • LindonL
                                    Lindon @d.healey
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                                    @d-healey - my understanding remains that you need to notarise anything that will "run" on its own - so app or pkg or dmg etc. but plug-ins - that are called from within DAWs only need to be codesigned. Colour me massively unsurprised is this opinion is wrong...

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                                    • d.healeyD
                                      d.healey @Lindon
                                      last edited by

                                      @Lindon Perhaps it is needed for apps, the KVR thread just mentions plugins. I'll see what I can find out!

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                                        adriano @d.healey
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                                        @d-healey yes. And me too

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                                          adriano @d.healey
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                                          @d-healey it also works without problem with the standalone versions. indeed the plugins already have an "Abcd" code for their operation in the daw.

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                                          • d.healeyD
                                            d.healey @adriano
                                            last edited by d.healey

                                            @adriano said in Notarisation for dummies:

                                            @d-healey indeed the plugins already have an "Abcd" code for their operation in the daw.

                                            That's not related to notarization.

                                            Have you disabled/bypassed gatekeeper?

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