Step modulator ?

[lalalandsynth]

@Lindon Then you must have encountered this feature.
I personally have made four plugins so far that would not work without this , so quite essential for modern plugins in my opinion. In fact , I would say its a basic requirement.
I was planning to remake these plugins in Hise but without this its not possible.

Same thing.

[lalalandsynth]

I am a bit surprised if you dont see the value in this , like in the Serum example .

Say you have a kick on each 1/4 note and the synth is travelling through the wavetable for one bar , now if you stop and start playing on the second kick , it will start at the offset point in the wavetable sounding the same as if you would have started from the beginning. Anything else would be weird , unless you specifically wanted it to.

[Lindon]

@lalalandsynth said in Step modulator ?:

I am a bit surprised if you dont see the value in this , like in the Serum example .

Say you have a kick on each 1/4 note and the synth is travelling through the wavetable for one bar , now if you stop and start playing on the second kick , it will start at the offset point in the wavetable sounding the same as if you would have started from the beginning. Anything else would be weird , unless you specifically wanted it to.

Yes I understand what the feature is - I just think the exact opposite is true too. I play the first note of a one-bar phrase on the first beat of the first bar... and I get one sound, I play slightly late in the second bar (like you know groove and all that) and I get a different sound...

I appreciate that certain genres of dance music have no groove at all...but the rest of the world - not so much. Which thinking about it is probably why Massive and Serum (and the like) are not so popular outside those genres

[lalalandsynth]

@Lindon said in Step modulator ?:

I just think the exact opposite is true too. I play the first note of a one-bar phrase on the first beat of the first bar... and I get one sound, I play slightly late in the second bar (like you know groove and all that) and I get a different sound...

You can do that too.

But syncing to host clock is pretty basic stuff for plugins these days, Serum style modulation is just one small example.
Not having that option is a big issue for me, but I have pretty much made that clear. :)

[Christoph Hart]

I appreciate that certain genres of dance music have no groove at all...but the rest of the world - not so much. Which thinking about it is probably why Massive and Serum (and the like) are not so popular outside those genres

That‘s a fair point but a framework for virtual instruments should make this assumption and offer both options.

However I am being used to start the playback on the bar start and if I don‘t I am used to tempo-synced stuff to behave a bit weird (if you trigger an arpeggiator it will also go off beat).

[Lindon]

@Christoph-Hart said in Step modulator ?:

That‘s a fair point but a framework for virtual instruments should make this assumption and offer both options.

Oh for sure, the more options the better I say - as long as it doesn't get in the way of the send bus FX implementation

-- no actually seriously - I see its something some people will want - but its not I think (sing out if you disagree everyone) the top of the list of things I'd like to see in HISE 3.0...nice (for some genres), sure; essential? my vote is not so much..

[lalalandsynth]

@Christoph-Hart said in Step modulator ?:

That‘s a fair point but a framework for virtual instruments should make this assumption and offer both options.

Most definitely. ;)
And my vote goes for essential.

Here are 4 of my plugins that rely on this feature ;)

[lalalandsynth]

@Christoph-Hart
And just to beat a dead horse once more ;)
At this point i expect plugins to hold sync at all times and I thought this was a bug.
Btw , absolutely love PercX , super creative.

[Christoph Hart]

Yeah, we've actually about to ship an update with a proper drag to DAW midi function. There's also a new sync to DAW mode which takes the playback position into account, but if you trigger it with MIDI notes there's nothing you can do about it because the sync is the note-on message (otherwise you could not start the pattern in the middle of a bar).

[musictop]

@lalalandsynth found it, (position 7 on LFO waveform selector)

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[lalalandsynth]

Ah ! Cool :)