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    • ustkU
      ustk @Christoph Hart
      last edited by ustk

      @Christoph-Hart Cool you found something 👍

      finger crossed it was related to the Logic hard crash issue... But it was definitely related to this one: https://forum.hise.audio/topic/11895/createpresetbrowsericons-giving-a-high-crash-count?_=1754664135122

      Yeah we're definitely talking about the same validation process

      Hise made me an F5 dude, browser just suffers...

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      • ustkU
        ustk @Christoph Hart
        last edited by

        @Christoph-Hart It's still freezing, having plugin parameters or not... (I threw the build folder for a clean 2nd build, same...)

        Hise made me an F5 dude, browser just suffers...

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        • ustkU
          ustk @Christoph Hart
          last edited by

          @Christoph-Hart Oh... it works with the debug build, it's the release that freezes ☃ ❄

          Hise made me an F5 dude, browser just suffers...

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          • d.healeyD
            d.healey @ustk
            last edited by

            @ustk See if a particular optimisation level triggers the issue

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            • ustkU
              ustk @d.healey
              last edited by ustk

              @d-healey It didn't, I tried no optimisation at all to mimic a debug but it still freezes

              Hise made me an F5 dude, browser just suffers...

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              • Christoph HartC
                Christoph Hart @ustk
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                @ustk yeah my guess is that it's still a deadlocking issue, but because the debug build / running under debugger is slower, it doesn't create the multithreading scenario that leads to the crash (or the probability of the crash goes down). The only option is to smash that compile button in Debug mode until you get the issue.

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                • ustkU
                  ustk @Christoph Hart
                  last edited by

                  @Christoph-Hart But does it relates to the parameter validation or the LAF? or both? or any? ☺

                  Hise made me an F5 dude, browser just suffers...

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                  • ustkU
                    ustk @Christoph Hart
                    last edited by ustk

                    @Christoph-Hart Oh wait... It was working in debug because I didn't recompiled my DLL (which is btw annoying when switching from release to debug to release...).
                    Now they are recompiled and the projects loads entirely in debug, the parameter validation freezes here too...

                    Hise made me an F5 dude, browser just suffers...

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                    • ustkU
                      ustk @ustk
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                      @Christoph-Hart I'm hitting this on parameter validation. (Freq is a NaN for some reason, I checked my networks, nothing fancy, all value are set between 750 and 7500 throughout the whole parameter chain)

                      Screenshot 2025-08-08 at 20.35.29.png

                      Hise made me an F5 dude, browser just suffers...

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                      • ustkU
                        ustk @Christoph Hart
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                        @Christoph-Hart So I removed the last biquad and replaced it with an SVF so the assertion disappeared.
                        Now I get this one, signing the end of my debugging skills...

                        Screenshot 2025-08-08 at 21.01.44.png

                        Hise made me an F5 dude, browser just suffers...

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                        • ustkU
                          ustk @ustk
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                          @ustk It looks like there are so many different things.
                          The last one was because of hasTail set in the networks. Once disabled the assertion goes away. But it's still freezing on parameter validation, and this time no crash to tell what is happening

                          Hise made me an F5 dude, browser just suffers...

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                          • ustkU
                            ustk
                            last edited by ustk

                            Gotcha!!! the culprit is:

                            const var global_LAF = Engine.createGlobalScriptLookAndFeel();
                            
                            global_LAF.registerFunction("getAlertWindowMarkdownStyleData", function(obj)
                            {
                                obj.font = "Regular";
                                obj.fontSize = 16.0;
                                obj.textColour = fontColour;
                                
                                return obj;
                            });
                            

                            Interfering with the parameter validation result message of Hise:

                            Screenshot 2025-08-09 at 00.33.52.png

                            Quick recap:

                            • biquad freq is NaN for whatever reason
                            • hasTail assertion
                            • getAlertWindowMarkdownStyleData interference

                            Hise made me an F5 dude, browser just suffers...

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                            • dannytaurusD
                              dannytaurus @ustk
                              last edited by

                              @ustk Excellent detective work! 👏

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                              • Christoph HartC
                                Christoph Hart @dannytaurus
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                                @ustk good catch but are you using the latest version? Because I swapped the ScopedReadLock at callDefinedFunction with a ScopedTryReadLock so that it doesn't deadlock when another thread holds the write lock, but your call stack still implies that it uses the ScopedReadLock.

                                The other things are noise.

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                                • ustkU
                                  ustk @Christoph Hart
                                  last edited by

                                  @Christoph-Hart yep definitely the last after deleting the build folder for a clean new build

                                  Hise made me an F5 dude, browser just suffers...

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                                  • Christoph HartC
                                    Christoph Hart @ustk
                                    last edited by

                                    @ustk yeah, I'm the idiot, I forgot to include the line with the actual fix in the commit...

                                    Try again now, it should now work correctly. If it still keeps freezing in Release mode I'll take another look.

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                                    • ustkU
                                      ustk @Christoph Hart
                                      last edited by

                                      @Christoph-Hart That was it! Thanks Chris! 😎

                                      Hise made me an F5 dude, browser just suffers...

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