Im trying to made Slicer like a fruity slicer and got stock on chopping, cant really do that in sample.
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@HarveySmith That's an interesting one -
"Fruity Slicer uses beat detection to slice a wave file into pieces and make them independently playable from the Piano roll or from a controller. If the wave file contains slice/region data this will be automatically used instead of beat-detection. Fruity Slicer offers playback, reordering of slices and time-stretching capabilities optimized for drum loops."
So if I'm correct, it divides up the signal into chunks depending on the tempo and note value, and then resequences them as you play in MIDI?
You could do that in HISE but it'll be tricky, you'd need to script getting the tempo, doing the maths on the length of note values in ms, 1/8th=120ms for example, and then somehow assign these as playable samples(?) and script cycling through them or triggering them at random with MIDI I guess?
I have no idea how to do transient/beat detection in HISE but I'd bet it's possible.Would be a real cool project, especially if you've got some experience already.
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@LozPetts said in Im trying to made Slicer like a fruity slicer and got stock on chopping, cant really do that in sample.:
I have no idea how to do transient/beat detection in HISE but I'd bet it's possible.
Its pretty tricky to do actually. I found that simply dividing the loop up into (say)1/16ths and displaying this to the user and letting them move the beat onset points around is much simpler...
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@Lindon Yeah that would be how I would do it too - I did see someone post a snippet for a basic transient designer a while back, OP could potentially use that as a starting point - certainly above my experience level at the moment!
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@LozPetts said in Im trying to made Slicer like a fruity slicer and got stock on chopping, cant really do that in sample.:
@Lindon Yeah that would be how I would do it too - I did see someone post a snippet for a basic transient designer a while back, OP could potentially use that as a starting point - certainly above my experience level at the moment!
yeah I found that the transient designers I could come up with were nowhere near accurate - either too many or too few hits...no matter how much tweaking I did. So in the end its way easier to divide the loop into a strict 1/16th grid ( alot of transients are going to be on that any way) and let the user shift/remove/add transient tags as they wish.
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@LozPetts damn, it’s harder then I expected but HISE actually really interesting so I’ll try to go more into it, thank u very much for answer
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@Lindon thank u for answer, do u know if HISE community have something like discord channel?
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@HarveySmith said in Im trying to made Slicer like a fruity slicer and got stock on chopping, cant really do that in sample.:
something like discord channel
Someone made a discord channel but it didn't really take off. This forum is the place to be.
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@Lindon that’s exactly what I want to do, I don’t want to make Sample being cut by tempo, I want to cut it in same size slices
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@Lindon woah this is rad, love your site too, I am curious where you got your audio player for the demo tracks, I love the elegant clean minimalist / soundcloud integration and the product looks and sounds great, I'd totally buy something like this :D
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@AxiomCrux said in Im trying to made Slicer like a fruity slicer and got stock on chopping, cant really do that in sample.:
@Lindon woah this is rad, love your site too, I am curious where you got your audio player for the demo tracks, I love the elegant clean minimalist / soundcloud integration and the product looks and sounds great, I'd totally buy something like this :D
well if you are talking about Elitist loop - then it's not my site - it's my clients site. I just built the product for them.
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@Lindon you killed that!
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@Chazrox said in Im trying to made Slicer like a fruity slicer and got stock on chopping, cant really do that in sample.:
@Lindon you killed that!
thanks it was a bit of a PITA but I got it sorted after a couple of weeks, so now I know how to do it ...was thinking about doing a "3 circles" version at some point....
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@Lindon this is such a cool idea. I've been playing with it and I'm not sure how to use the SampleStartMod that is listed in the docs for the Audio Loop Player. Is that what you're using?
Without that, I'm able to get "slices" by moving around the start/end points using .setSampleRange but only if I already know the total length of the audio file. If I want to be able to drop in a new file and get the length via .setContentCallback I'm running into trouble because it will redefine the length every time .setSampleRange is used.
Am I even on the right track?
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@dane-zone well I dont use an audio player for a start - I use a sampler.. so maybe start there...I may well have sent you down the wrong track with my first post by mentioning Audio Loop player- so sorry for that.
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@Lindon ok that makes a lot of sense. I was able to get the concept going using the CustomSampleImport tutorial. I managed to repurpose the start/end of the LoopPanel to give me two different draggable trigger point "slices" but I'm curious if you have any other tips for adding more draggable slice points to the panel. I'm still wrapping my head around the custom panel stuff.
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@dane-zone said in Im trying to made Slicer like a fruity slicer and got stock on chopping, cant really do that in sample.:
@Lindon ok that makes a lot of sense. I was able to get the concept going using the CustomSampleImport tutorial. I managed to repurpose the start/end of the LoopPanel to give me two different draggable trigger point "slices" but I'm curious if you have any other tips for adding more draggable slice points to the panel. I'm still wrapping my head around the custom panel stuff.
Well first Elitist doesnt do end user sample importing - but I cant see why that would be a difficult addition. As to slice setting - thats really up to you, again Elitist actually just allows users to set the start and end points of a sample and plays that, but using the Sample Start modulator should allow you to start the sample at any point you like - so different "slices" in the same end user loaded sample...
You will need to draw your own panel and add movable/addable/delete-able "slice markers" with the setPaintRoutine - it should be powerful enough its what Elitist uses to draw the circle and the segments and allow them to be modified by the user.
