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    • pcs800P
      pcs800 @d.healey
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      @d-healey The installer just installs wav files in the samples folder I have defined. Will that not work?

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      • d.healeyD
        d.healey @pcs800
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        @pcs800 said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

        No, is that necessary?

        It's necessary to put the samples in the project's Samples folder - otherwise the sample maps will contain absolute paths.

        I don't know if it's necessary to convert them to monoliths, but you should probably do this as it will reduce disk usage.

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        • pcs800P
          pcs800 @d.healey
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          @d-healey
          Ok but that doesn't seem to be the issue here.
          Once I get the plugin onto another computer, it asks me where the sample folder is, which i point it out, and it accepts it. But it's silent.

          @d-healey said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

          It's necessary to put the samples in the project's Samples folder - otherwise the sample maps will contain absolute paths

          Sample folder on the dev machine? So if i imported samples to the project from some other folder, like C:\some folder\samples. That somehow messes up the project? Do I need to put them in the project samples folder on the dev machine, and then re-import them to the sampler in the project?

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          • d.healeyD
            d.healey @pcs800
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            @pcs800 said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

            That somehow messes up the project?

            Yes, because in your sample maps you will have absolute paths to that folder.

            @pcs800 said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

            Do I need to put them in the project samples folder on the dev machine

            Yes

            @pcs800 said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

            and then re-import them to the sampler in the project?

            This isn't necessary. Once you've moved the samples to the Samples folder. Open the sample map xmls in a text editor and replace the absolute path part with {PROJECT_FOLDER} for each of the samples.

            This is explained in the docs here.

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            • LindonL
              Lindon @pcs800
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              @pcs800 said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

              @Lindon when it presented me with the message to either extract or browse for a folder which contains the samples, I chose to browse for the folder. The folder where I know the samples are because I looked. It accepted that folder but still doesn't make any sound. Could this be something related to the sample module or MIDI velocity settings Within hise?

              very very very unlikely.

              To sort of answer my own question, on the development machine, when I export to vst3, then I copy the vst3 to the windows vst3 folder, then bring the plug-in up in a daw, it works just fine

              ..and this will work fine if you have (as David suggests) absolute paths in the sample maps, but on any other machine (that does not have the absolute path) it wont work

              Meanwhile this doesn't answer the question I asked you:

              Is "Acoustica" the name you have used for Company in the Setting/User Settings panel?

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              • pcs800P
                pcs800 @d.healey
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                @d-healey said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

                Open the sample map xmls in a text editor and replace the absolute path part with {PROJECT_FOLDER} for each of the samples.

                In the project folder, there is a folder called samplemaps, it is empty. Is this where these xml files should be?

                @Lindon said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

                Is "Acoustica" the name you have used for Company in the Setting/User Settings panel?

                I will check that once I get back to that machine. I am off on Thursdays and Fridays. But still learning hise on my own machine at home.

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                • d.healeyD
                  d.healey @pcs800
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                  @pcs800 said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

                  . Is this where these xml files should be?

                  Yes, did you save your sample maps after mapping the samples?

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                  • pcs800P
                    pcs800 @d.healey
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                    @d-healey No, I did not know I had to do that. But now what I have done is copy the samples to the sample folder in the project folder, re-import them from there, then create a sample map called samplmap.xml
                    All the samples point here now

                    sample Root="28" LoKey="28" HiKey="28" LoVel="0" HiVel="127" RRGroup="1"
                    FileName="{PROJECT_FOLDER}1E1.wav" Duplicate="0"/

                    Is this correct?

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                    • d.healeyD
                      d.healey @pcs800
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                      @pcs800 Looks good

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                      • pcs800P
                        pcs800 @d.healey
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                        @d-healey
                        Ok cool, now...
                        My inno setup is using sample source Documents\HISE Projects\project name\Samples* as the source.
                        Where do I have it place the samples?
                        Or, as we discussed before, it is my choice, which I define in the LinkWindows file?
                        And, if that is the case...
                        The LinkWindows file needs to be in "{userappdata}\Project name
                        Is that correct?

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                        • pcs800P
                          pcs800 @pcs800
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                          @pcs800 I got it working!
                          So I will use what I've done so far in Hise, and inno, as templates for the other plugin I plan to build.
                          You're one heck of a help, d.healy

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                          • pcs800P
                            pcs800 @d.healey
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                            @d-healey
                            A new issue...
                            Since this is all working now, I wanted to add a second set of samples that trigger from 0-64 vel. And adjust the current sample to play from 65-127 vel.
                            So, I added them and I get no sound in Hise from the 0-64, but I do get sound from the 65-127.
                            Is there something else I need to do in order to enable multisamples?

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                            • d.healeyD
                              d.healey @pcs800
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                              @pcs800 said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

                              So, I added them

                              How did you add them?

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                              • pcs800P
                                pcs800 @d.healey
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                                @d-healey I first put the new samples into the project samples folder, then I drag/dropped them from there (windows explorer) to the sampler editor in Hise. Same as I did for the first ones.

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                                • d.healeyD
                                  d.healey @pcs800
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                                  @pcs800 Are you including them in the same sample map as the previous ones or in a separate sample map/sampler?

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                                  • pcs800P
                                    pcs800 @d.healey
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                                    @d-healey The same map

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                                    • pcs800P
                                      pcs800 @d.healey
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                                      @d-healey Video_2025-05-10_122028.wmv

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                                      • d.healeyD
                                        d.healey @pcs800
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                                        @pcs800 Interesting. What happens if you extend one of the upper samples down to velocity 0 and play it at a lower velocity?

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                                        • pcs800P
                                          pcs800 @d.healey
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                                          @d-healey It works at any velocity if i do that

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                                          • d.healeyD
                                            d.healey @pcs800
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                                            @pcs800 Have you tried restarting HISE?

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