Mono versions of FX Plugins?

[Natan]

@orange said in Mono versions of FX Plugins?:

@d-healey In some DAWs (such as Pro Tools, Logic Audio...etc) you can't insert a stereo out fx plugin on a mono channel directly.

Your plugin even will not be on the plugin list on a mono channel's insert slot, and you can't use your stereo out fx plugin. You must route this mono channel into a stereo bus, then after doing that you will be able to see & use your stereo out fx plugin. You can try it yourself with a HISE exported fx plugin in Logic Pro X...

That's why, fx plugin manufacturers allways include mono versions of their plugins as much as stereo versions. (Just look Waves, UAD..etc)

@orange Is this Solved using the support Mono Fx?
I read somewhere that you Confirmed That Just Ticking That Flag on Will do the Job...
Thanks For advice

[hisefilo]

@orange Hi mate! How are you handling this nowadays? I checked the "Support Mono" but Logic still not seeing the plugins in mono channels. Any tip?

[orange]

@hisefilo Hi mate.

Support Mono FX works for FX plugins here.

Have you enabled Force Stereo Output? If yes, this may affect the output to stereo.

[hisefilo]

@orange Well! Finally working. Previous channel configuration of the plugin was cached by Logic Pro X somewhere (no AudioUnitsCache, nor preferences, nothing that I can find)
Changing the plugin name makes it work in Stereo/Dual mono as expected. Thanks mate!
BTW Faust working like a charm in this configuration. (I was expecting stereo Faust .dlls to do something weird in mono plugins)

[Lindon]

OKay so I have a client who wants a plugin in mono to work in Logic and PrFools.... can anyone point me in the (currently) right direction for getting this going?

I have a preferences set up like this:

and a routing like this:

Do I have to manually change this to something like:

Or should just renaming and recompiling the plugin work - 'cause I've tried that and its not working for me/him in ProFools....

Any directional help appreciated....

[Christoph Hart]

@Lindon you shouldn't have to rename the plugin - it uses the same plugin binary and should detect the channel count automatically.

You don't need to reroute anything, I think it will just call process with an empty right channel.

[Lindon]

@Christoph-Hart said in Mono versions of FX Plugins?:

@Lindon you shouldn't have to rename the plugin - it uses the same plugin binary and should detect the channel count automatically.

You don't need to reroute anything, I think it will just call process with an empty right channel.

hmm, well he tells me its not working in ProTools and Logic(AU) and those DAWs wont allow the plugin to be loaded into a mono track....

[d.healey]

@Lindon I could be wrong but I think there might be a preprocessor definition you need to add: HI_SUPPORT_MONO_CHANNEL_LAYOUT

[Lindon]

@d-healey said in Mono versions of FX Plugins?:

@Lindon I could be wrong but I think there might be a preprocessor definition you need to add: HI_SUPPORT_MONO_CHANNEL_LAYOUT

so where am I putting this? in the "usual spot"?

[d.healey]

@Lindon Ya

[Lindon]

@d-healey

HI_SUPPORT_MONO_CHANNEL_LAYOUT= 1

???

[d.healey]

@Lindon Sounds right to me (I'm just guessing here about this whole thing)

[Christoph Hart]

HI_SUPPORT_MONO_CHANNEL_LAYOUT=1 has the same effect as if you tick the Support Mono FX box.

Have you cleared the AU cache?

[Lindon]

@Christoph-Hart said in Mono versions of FX Plugins?:

HI_SUPPORT_MONO_CHANNEL_LAYOUT=1 has the same effect as if you tick the Support Mono FX box.

Have you cleared the AU cache?

I've asked him to do this...

[Lindon]

@Lindon said in Mono versions of FX Plugins?:

@Christoph-Hart said in Mono versions of FX Plugins?:

HI_SUPPORT_MONO_CHANNEL_LAYOUT=1 has the same effect as if you tick the Support Mono FX box.

Have you cleared the AU cache?

I've asked him to do this...

Okay he's cleared the caches in Logic and ProTools - and still this will not load onto a mono track

What else should I be trying?

[d.healey]

Well this has come up for me today. So all I need to do is check that box and my stereo effect will work on both mono and stereo tracks in Logic? Does it affect VST or just AU?

[orange]

@d-healey
Yes, checking this box allows the plugin to work in mono on the mono channel.

If your fx plugin is a reverb, stereo delay, chorus, etc., you will want to enable the "Mono to Stereo" feature too. For this, you need to check that box and also add the HI_SUPPORT_MONO_TO_STEREO=1 compiler flag.

“Mono” and "Mono to Stereo" options affect AU and AAX plugins. VST works in all kinds of ways anyway.

[d.healey]

@orange What does that do?

[orange]

@d-healey said in Mono versions of FX Plugins?:

@orange What does that do?

Instead of just outputting the channel to mono, it converts the mono channel to stereo.

Generally, users want this for those effects. For example, if you add reverb, chorus or stereo delay to a mono vocal channel, you want the output to be stereo, not mono.

[d.healey]

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