How to control instrument volume with MPE?

[d.healey]

Since we can't add global MPE modulators, or add them to effects at the container level, how can we control the overall volume of the instrument with a single MPE modulator?

[A Former User]

@d-healey I don't have MPE, but could you grab a dummy MPE Modulator's value using a timer and connect that to a gain?

[d.healey]

@iamlamprey No, it also wouldn't be real time then. Might be possible with a broadcaster though... Still, seems like a hack

[Christoph Hart]

@d-healey why would you control the global volume with MPE? The special thing of MPE is that it works with polyphony…

[d.healey]

@Christoph-Hart I have my samples mapped in multiple samplers. I have mapped them this way to make use of different effects for different sets of samples.

I want to assign MPE to "expression" which is basically volume across all of those samplers.

I guess I could add one per sampler but it might get confusing for the user because certain samplers are shared by different articulations.

[Christoph Hart]

@d-healey well you need to add it to samplers if you need it to control the volume of individual voices. If not, just use a normal CC mod.

[d.healey]

@Christoph-Hart I'm coming back to this. I realised I still would like to be able to use a global MPE mod to share it across multiple samplers.

For example let's say I have one sampler for sustains and one sampler for legato intervals. I want the user to be able to control volume per note using MPE but I don't want the volume control of the sustains to be separate from the volume control of the legato.

[d.healey]

@d-healey It occurs to me that sustain + legato intervals is not the best example because that's generally a monophonic setup :D

So here's another one.

I have an instrument with two sample sets in two different samplers. Both sets are active at the same time, in different key ranges, there is no "switching" of articulation, as far as the user is aware it's just one set of samples.

The user should be able to assign a volume or pitch MPE that will affect both samplers.

[bendurso]

@d-healey +1
I was trying to make the same. All my instruments have two samplers for A/B Layers, and make more sense to control them together with MPE.

[d.healey]

@bendurso You can add envelopes as global modulators now so I guess this is solved (I haven't tested it yet).

[bendurso]

@d-healey I can't click on Envelopes in the GainModulation of the master container. I updated to Hise 3.5 as soon as it came out. Maybe I have to update a new develop branch?

[d.healey]

@bendurso Use the global modulators system. You add one MPE modulator in the global mods container and then assign this to the gain of each sampler.