Tonal Balance

Christoph Hart

@Matt_SF Yeah, setting these up is super complicated (and I'm working on a template system that creates these for you with the correct parameter connections and values for a correct 2/3/4 band split.

But you're almost there. The frequencies of the Allpasses must match the other filters for a linear phase response, so that each band goes through the same filter coefficients:

Lo:

LP: 200 Hz
AP: 800 Hz

Mid:

HP: 200Hz
LP 800 Hz

High:

AP: 200Hz
HP: 800 Hz

So basically each band needs two filters to be set at 200 and 800 Hz and then you need to set the mode to Allpass for some filters to get the frequency split behaviour.

Matt_SF

@Christoph-Hart aaaaaah I get it. Thanks a lot for the info!
And if you make a template for this, it'll be awesome.

orange

@Christoph-Hart said in Tonal Balance:

I'm working on a template system that creates these for you with the correct parameter connections and values for a correct 2/3/4 band split.

+1 for Up to 5 bands

Natan

@orange said in Tonal Balance:

@Christoph-Hart said in Tonal Balance:

I'm working on a template system that creates these for you with the correct parameter connections and values for a correct 2/3/4 band split.

+1 for Up to 5 bands

Add another +1 on top of that :gem_stone:

Reylon

@Christoph-Hart +1 from me too!

Natan

@Christoph-Hart I CLearly Hear The Changes by Bypassing the Scriptnode module, any Idea ?

This is Just like what you mentioned above about Frequencies :/

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Christoph Hart

@Natan why did you mix jlinkwitzriley nodes (the JUCE ones) with the filters.linkwitzriley? I'm pretty sure their internals are a bit different so this will not work.

Natan

@Christoph-Hart
LOL, I'm OUT
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Gonna Fix it Now LOL

Natan

@Christoph-Hart That's did the trick :) :folded_hands: Legend :gem_stone:

Christoph Hart

Alright, I've just pushed a few templates, including frequency splitter up to 5 bands, a dry/wet mixer, and some other utility structures.

If anybody has ideas for more templates, let me know, they are pretty easy to add.

Matt_SF

@Christoph-Hart Awesome
If anything comes to mind, I'll post a request. Thank you Christoph !

A Former User

@Christoph-Hart Thank you for the update. on macOS M1, While compiling the current Hise develop branch, I get Use of undeclared identifier 'NumVoices' errors on the below places:

SN_POLY_NODE_ID("transport");

void onTransportChange(bool isPlaying, double /*ppqPosition*/) override
		{
			value = isPlaying;
		}

SN_POLY_NODE_ID("ppq");

void updateValue()
		{
			value = hmath::fmod(ppqPos, loopLengthQuarters) / loopLengthQuarters;
		}

Matt_SF

@Steve-Mohican MacOS? I just compiled it without issues on PC

A Former User

@Matt_SF Yes macOS Monterey, Hise can't be compiled.

d.healey

@Steve-Mohican Xcode 13.1 ?

A Former User

@d-healey Yes Xcode 13.1. I was able to build Hise till the last commits, I did 3 weeks ago.

Christoph Hart

It's fixed now.

Natan

@Christoph-Hart Legend, Can you hear The very low low frequencies here?

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I added a Gain knob to mute the Upper band, and There is a small leak of Sub & Low frequencies there, and Yeah it is Audible and in meter it shows up.

Just play on low Notes

Christoph Hart

@Natan A linkwitz-riley filter is not a digital brick wall filter so of course you're getting a little bit of leakage. I think they are 12dB/octave so if the crossover is set at 80 Hz, you'll get -12dB for 40Hz and -24dB for 20Hz.

A Former User

@Christoph-Hart said in Tonal Balance:

If anybody has ideas for more templates, let me know, they are pretty easy to add.

Can you add a compressor template with the soft knee option please? Using envelope followers to make a compressor is very hard for those who don't know scriptnode & dsp well.

I think a soft knee option was asked a couples of times. Lots of people would be glad to see this.

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