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      Reylon last edited by

      Hi Guys,

      Any knowledge on creating a tonal balance?
      There are 4 bands in my EQ and I would like to have 4 "vu meters" for each band/frequency
      low, mid, treble, high... show the current gain of each frequency....Something like this.maxresdefault.png

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      • Natan
        Natan @Reylon last edited by

        @Reylon
        You need to split your audio Signal into 4 L - Lm - Hm - H channels, using eq and routing matrix. or Script node.
        and then script meters to read Each frequency band.

        Not a Simple task!

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        • Lindon
          Lindon @Natan last edited by

          @Natan said in Tonal Balance:

          @Reylon
          You need to split your audio Signal into 4 L - Lm - Hm - H channels, using eq and routing matrix. or Script node.
          and then script meters to read Each frequency band.

          Not a Simple task!

          ..and watch for the phasing too...

          HISE Development for hire.
          www.channelrobot.com

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          • Christoph Hart
            Christoph Hart @Lindon last edited by

            This can be achieved with a network of linkwitz-riley filters that guarantee the same phase response for each band (every band needs the same amount of filters so you need to fill up "empty" spots with allpass filters).

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            • Lindon
              Lindon @Christoph Hart last edited by

              @Christoph-Hart said in Tonal Balance:

              This can be achieved with a network of linkwitz-riley filters that guarantee the same phase response for each band (every band needs the same amount of filters so you need to fill up "empty" spots with allpass filters).

              cool - I didn't know this - useful...

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              www.channelrobot.com

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              • Matt_SF
                Matt_SF @Christoph Hart last edited by

                @Christoph-Hart Interesting ! Do the frequency of the Allpass filters matter when building this kind of network ?

                Develop branch
                Win10 / Monterey & Xcode 13.2.1

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                  Reylon last edited by

                  Sounds interesting but crazy hard to do for a beginner 😂 any further help would be highly appreciated.

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                  • Matt_SF
                    Matt_SF @Christoph Hart last edited by

                    @Christoph-Hart I tried multi-banding a FX with linkwitz-riley filters like this :

                    7c8edd66-cd19-43c8-9620-6000589472d9-image.png

                    But when analyzing the plugin with PluginDoctor, I'm getting this :

                    83ce356b-f5a7-4717-8119-86772d968c6b-image.png

                    So clearly I'm missing something... Any clue ?...... Peeeeease 🙂

                    Develop branch
                    Win10 / Monterey & Xcode 13.2.1

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                    • DanH
                      DanH @Matt_SF last edited by

                      @Matt_SF how does it look without the all pass filters?

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                      • Matt_SF
                        Matt_SF @DanH last edited by

                        @DanH it looks the same...

                        Develop branch
                        Win10 / Monterey & Xcode 13.2.1

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                        • Christoph Hart
                          Christoph Hart @Matt_SF last edited by

                          @Matt_SF Yeah, setting these up is super complicated (and I'm working on a template system that creates these for you with the correct parameter connections and values for a correct 2/3/4 band split.

                          But you're almost there. The frequencies of the Allpasses must match the other filters for a linear phase response, so that each band goes through the same filter coefficients:

                          Lo:

                          LP: 200 Hz
                          AP: 800 Hz

                          Mid:

                          HP: 200Hz
                          LP 800 Hz

                          High:

                          AP: 200Hz
                          HP: 800 Hz

                          So basically each band needs two filters to be set at 200 and 800 Hz and then you need to set the mode to Allpass for some filters to get the frequency split behaviour.

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                          • Matt_SF
                            Matt_SF @Christoph Hart last edited by

                            @Christoph-Hart aaaaaah I get it. Thanks a lot for the info! 🙏
                            And if you make a template for this, it'll be awesome.

                            Develop branch
                            Win10 / Monterey & Xcode 13.2.1

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                            • orange
                              orange @Christoph Hart last edited by orange

                              @Christoph-Hart said in Tonal Balance:

                              I'm working on a template system that creates these for you with the correct parameter connections and values for a correct 2/3/4 band split.

                              +1 for Up to 5 bands 👍

                              develop Branch / XCode 13.1
                              macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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                              • Natan
                                Natan @orange last edited by

                                @orange said in Tonal Balance:

                                @Christoph-Hart said in Tonal Balance:

                                I'm working on a template system that creates these for you with the correct parameter connections and values for a correct 2/3/4 band split.

                                +1 for Up to 5 bands 👍

                                Add another +1 on top of that 💎

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                                  Reylon @Christoph Hart last edited by

                                  @Christoph-Hart +1 from me too!

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                                  • Natan
                                    Natan last edited by

                                    @Christoph-Hart I CLearly Hear The Changes by Bypassing the Scriptnode module, any Idea ?

                                    This is Just like what you mentioned above about Frequencies 😕

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                                    • Christoph Hart
                                      Christoph Hart @Natan last edited by

                                      @Natan why did you mix jlinkwitzriley nodes (the JUCE ones) with the filters.linkwitzriley? I'm pretty sure their internals are a bit different so this will not work.

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                                      • Natan
                                        Natan @Christoph Hart last edited by

                                        @Christoph-Hart
                                        LOL, I'm OUT
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                                        Gonna Fix it Now LOL 😆

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                                        • Natan
                                          Natan last edited by

                                          @Christoph-Hart That's did the trick 🙂 🙏 Legend 💎

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                                          • Christoph Hart
                                            Christoph Hart @Natan last edited by

                                            Alright, I've just pushed a few templates, including frequency splitter up to 5 bands, a dry/wet mixer, and some other utility structures.

                                            If anybody has ideas for more templates, let me know, they are pretty easy to add.

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