Scriptnode modchain issue.

[lalalandsynth]

@christoph-hart I was using Math.Mul (although I cannot remember why :) )to achieve the phase shift , is there a more precise way to achieve phase shift now?

EDIT ! I just realised , I must have used delays for the offset but they were STK so they are gone !Makes sense why I dont have offset anymore.

[ustk]

@lalalandsynth said in Scriptnode modchain issue.:

is there a more precise way to achieve phase shift now?

A fixed delay

[lalalandsynth]

@ustk Of course . No idea why I used mul ?

[lalalandsynth]

Man would it be helpful to have a scope or something to look at multiple modulators at the same time and compare, probably useful for a lot of things.
Unless there is and I am not aware ?

Have to go to photoshop to see that my phase offset is gone.

[Matt_SF]

@lalalandsynth if you mul by -1 you get the signal in opposite phase... ?

[lalalandsynth]

@matt_sf If I remember correctly yes.

Like i said , its been a long time , cant really remember how I achieved the phase shift , let alone a precise one.

EDIT ! I just realised , I must have used delays for the offset but they were STK so they are gone !Makes sense why I dont have offset anymore.

[Christoph Hart]

@lalalandsynth The oscillators have a phase parameter now, so maybe you don't need the delay.

I would use 6 oscillators with the correct phase offsets.

[ustk]

@christoph-hart The phase delay would be cool for this but with a parameter for the phase percentage on top of the existing frequency.

[lalalandsynth]

@christoph-hart OK, will try that .

Is it possible that the fixed delays do not work , I have to use the JDelay for the phase offset , fix delay does nothing.?

For some reason the ensemble sounds much better in a previous HISE version.

[lalalandsynth]

So in my previous version I had 3 stereo delays - total 6 delays.
One stereo delay had one of the delays modulated in the inverted direction , I did this by inverting the max/min of the core peak.

I cannot seem to be able to achieve this in the new develop.
I can change the max/min on the destination (delay time knob) and that does something to the sound but I cannot see the modulation indicator of the knob going in the inverse direction?

If I invert it at the core.peak , it does nothing ?

This is how its set in the older project and worked fine.

This is the effect on the modulators - inverted modulation.
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EDIT: Figured it out - make sticky ( arrow icon next to button ) invert range.

[ustk]

@lalalandsynth Indeed, it's broken somehow...

[lalalandsynth]

@ustk Figured it out - make sticky ( arrow icon next to button ) invert range.

[Matt_SF]

@lalalandsynth Use the range editor and edit the min/max values by SHIFT-click on them :

@lalalandsynth said in Scriptnode modchain issue.:

invert range

Edit : you can set the 'start' value greater than the 'end' value right away, they will be displayed as min & max but the curve will be inverted.

[Matt_SF]

@ustk since the new_layout & last develop version, if you don't use the range editor to edit the values, you have to define them for both the source AND the target. Otherwise that doesn't work.
In old develop branch, editing just the source was sufficient.

[lalalandsynth]

@matt_sf Why do they come up like this by default ?
Shouldnt they be linear ?

[ustk]

@lalalandsynth The skewFactor is not necessarily set to 1 (linear) like for frequency values or like here, time values
Because you want precision at lower values

[lalalandsynth]

@ustk I see , But I would need them all to be identical or I will get a slight pan.
I can save a curve but only to use for that particular curve, cannot copy between them.

Or something ...I am getting a slight tilt on the stereo image , not sure why ?

Having said that , I am getting closer to it sounding correct again.
Obviously I am making a stereo ensemble so its a bit "extreme" or "modern" but man does it liven up the strings. :)

[crd]

@lalalandsynth Are you modulating them with a peak node? I was having issues modulating the panner with a peak module. It seemed to never get fully right. I think I got better results with an xfader node.

[lalalandsynth]

@crd Yep LFo into Peak node.
Much better after I set the response to linear.

[ustk]

@lalalandsynth Yep linear skewFactor is what you need.