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    • ustkU
      ustk @lalalandsynth
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      @lalalandsynth said in Scriptnode modchain issue.:

      is there a more precise way to achieve phase shift now?

      A fixed delay

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        lalalandsynth @ustk
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        @ustk Of course . No idea why I used mul ?

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          lalalandsynth
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          Man would it be helpful to have a scope or something to look at multiple modulators at the same time and compare, probably useful for a lot of things.
          Unless there is and I am not aware ?

          Have to go to photoshop to see that my phase offset is gone.

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          • Matt_SFM
            Matt_SF @lalalandsynth
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            @lalalandsynth if you mul by -1 you get the signal in opposite phase... ?

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            • lalalandsynthL
              lalalandsynth @Matt_SF
              last edited by lalalandsynth

              @matt_sf If I remember correctly yes.

              Like i said , its been a long time , cant really remember how I achieved the phase shift , let alone a precise one.

              EDIT ! I just realised , I must have used delays for the offset but they were STK so they are gone !Makes sense why I dont have offset anymore.

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              • Christoph HartC
                Christoph Hart @lalalandsynth
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                @lalalandsynth The oscillators have a phase parameter now, so maybe you don't need the delay.

                I would use 6 oscillators with the correct phase offsets.

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                • ustkU
                  ustk @Christoph Hart
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                  @christoph-hart The phase delay would be cool for this but with a parameter for the phase percentage on top of the existing frequency.

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                  • lalalandsynthL
                    lalalandsynth @Christoph Hart
                    last edited by lalalandsynth

                    @christoph-hart OK, will try that .

                    Is it possible that the fixed delays do not work , I have to use the JDelay for the phase offset , fix delay does nothing.?

                    For some reason the ensemble sounds much better in a previous HISE version.

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                    • lalalandsynthL
                      lalalandsynth
                      last edited by lalalandsynth

                      So in my previous version I had 3 stereo delays - total 6 delays.
                      One stereo delay had one of the delays modulated in the inverted direction , I did this by inverting the max/min of the core peak.

                      I cannot seem to be able to achieve this in the new develop.
                      I can change the max/min on the destination (delay time knob) and that does something to the sound but I cannot see the modulation indicator of the knob going in the inverse direction?

                      If I invert it at the core.peak , it does nothing ?

                      This is how its set in the older project and worked fine.
                      Mod inverse.jpg

                      This is the effect on the modulators - inverted modulation.
                      Mod inverse 2.jpg<

                      EDIT: Figured it out - make sticky ( arrow icon next to button ) invert range.

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                      • ustkU
                        ustk @lalalandsynth
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                        @lalalandsynth Indeed, it's broken somehow...

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                        • lalalandsynthL
                          lalalandsynth @ustk
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                          @ustk Figured it out - make sticky ( arrow icon next to button ) invert range.

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                          • Matt_SFM
                            Matt_SF @lalalandsynth
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                            @lalalandsynth Use the range editor and edit the min/max values by SHIFT-click on them :

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                            @lalalandsynth said in Scriptnode modchain issue.:

                            invert range

                            Edit : you can set the 'start' value greater than the 'end' value right away, they will be displayed as min & max but the curve will be inverted.

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                            • Matt_SFM
                              Matt_SF @ustk
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                              @ustk since the new_layout & last develop version, if you don't use the range editor to edit the values, you have to define them for both the source AND the target. Otherwise that doesn't work.
                              In old develop branch, editing just the source was sufficient.

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                              • lalalandsynthL
                                lalalandsynth @Matt_SF
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                                @matt_sf Why do they come up like this by default ?
                                Shouldnt they be linear ?
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                                • ustkU
                                  ustk @lalalandsynth
                                  last edited by ustk

                                  @lalalandsynth The skewFactor is not necessarily set to 1 (linear) like for frequency values or like here, time values
                                  Because you want precision at lower values

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                                  • lalalandsynthL
                                    lalalandsynth @ustk
                                    last edited by lalalandsynth

                                    @ustk I see , But I would need them all to be identical or I will get a slight pan.
                                    I can save a curve but only to use for that particular curve, cannot copy between them.

                                    Or something ...I am getting a slight tilt on the stereo image , not sure why ?

                                    Having said that , I am getting closer to it sounding correct again.
                                    Obviously I am making a stereo ensemble so its a bit "extreme" or "modern" but man does it liven up the strings. :)

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                                      crd @lalalandsynth
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                                      @lalalandsynth Are you modulating them with a peak node? I was having issues modulating the panner with a peak module. It seemed to never get fully right. I think I got better results with an xfader node.

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                                      • lalalandsynthL
                                        lalalandsynth @crd
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                                        @crd Yep LFo into Peak node.
                                        Much better after I set the response to linear.

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                                        • ustkU
                                          ustk @lalalandsynth
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                                          @lalalandsynth Yep linear skewFactor is what you need.

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                                          • Matt_SFM
                                            Matt_SF @lalalandsynth
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                                            @lalalandsynth said in Scriptnode modchain issue.:

                                            cannot copy between them

                                            yep, only solution is to setup one of them and duplicate :face_savoring_food:

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