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    • Christoph HartC
      Christoph Hart @Fortune
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      A couple of months ago you've declared that Hise can export M1 plugins but is Hise compatible?

      Exported plugins are native M1 compatible, but HISE isn't. The SNEX JIT compiler requires to be run under Rossetta and I will only start working on an native ARM JIT compiler when Apple announces the end of Rossetta and not a single day earlier.

      If yes, which macOS version do you suggest?

      I'm compiling on my MacBook Air M1 with Big Sur and Xcode 12.4.

      How can we build universal binaries with IPP?

      I think I will remove IPP from macOS builds altogether in the foreseeable future. The performance difference to Apples VDSP framework is negligible, so just disable IPP when you build universal binaries.

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      • FortuneF
        Fortune @Christoph Hart
        last edited by Fortune

        @christoph-hart said in ARM/Intel Universal Binary... how?:

        Thank you for clearifying.

        I think I will remove IPP from macOS builds altogether in the foreseeable future. The performance difference to Apples VDSP framework is negligible, so just disable IPP when you build universal binaries.

        True for M1 systems but IPP is very important for intel systems. I think universal binary support would be needed at least 4-5 years more.

        So for now we can't make universal binaries right? Must be individual for intel and M1? Can you add this feature please?

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        • ?
          A Former User @Dan Korneff
          last edited by A Former User

          @dustbro said in ARM/Intel Universal Binary... how?:

          @Christoph-Hart said in ARM/Intel Universal Binary... how?:

          the apple stuff is fast enough

          Maybe not? Checking out the ARM compiled plugin with a convolution plugin is giving me warnings in debug mode.

          ### PerformanceWarning
          -Time: **0.70**   /CallbackIndex: **60**
          -Location: 'Convolution::ConvolutionRendering'
          -Voice Amount: **0**
          -Limit: '10.0%'  Avg: '2.07%', Peak: '11.0%'
          

          Guys how can we see these debug reports?
          I enabled debug mode before plugin compilation, but after building I can't see anything.

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          • Dan KorneffD
            Dan Korneff @A Former User
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            @steve-mohican said in ARM/Intel Universal Binary... how?:

            after building I can't see anything

            There is a button available in the Custom Settings Floating Tile to turn Debug Mode on and off.
            Add that to your project.

            Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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            • ?
              A Former User @Dan Korneff
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              @dustbro Ok, now understood. Thank you!

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              • FortuneF
                Fortune @Dan Korneff
                last edited by Fortune

                @dustbro said in ARM/Intel Universal Binary... how?:

                I've got my M1 mac mini up and running with:
                HISE - New layout
                Xcode 13
                IPP 2021.4.0

                I am trying to comple Hise on M1 Mac Mini, but:

                • I am getting JUCE path is incorrect warning in Projucer. When I manually locate it still fails to compile. Do we need something for this?
                • Did you enable IPP while compiling Hise in Projucer?
                • Selected Mac (Rosetta) while compiling in XCode?
                • or any hint for this please?

                What I use is:

                HISE - New layout (from 25 October)
                XCode 12.4 (@Christoph-Hart config)
                IPP 2020.3

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                • Dan KorneffD
                  Dan Korneff @Fortune
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                  @fortune said in ARM/Intel Universal Binary... how?:

                  I am getting JUCE path is incorrect warning in Projucer. When I manually locate it still fails to compile. Do we need something for this?

                  What version of JUCE are you using?

                  Did you enable IPP while compiling Hise in Projucer?

                  IPP must be disabled

                  Selected Mac (Rosetta) while compiling in XCode?

                  Yes. HISE requires Rosetta to run on M1

                  Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                  • FortuneF
                    Fortune @Dan Korneff
                    last edited by

                    @dustbro said in ARM/Intel Universal Binary... how?:

                    What version of JUCE are you using?

                    @dustbro I am using the projucer in the Hise package. Version 6.

                    Thanks for the info, I will try to compile Hise without IPP again.

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                    • Dan KorneffD
                      Dan Korneff @Fortune
                      last edited by

                      @fortune Any luck?

                      Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                      • FortuneF
                        Fortune @Dan Korneff
                        last edited by Fortune

                        @dustbro I swapped the ipp folder and it worked.

                        Even I disable ipp, I think somehow ipp folders are needed. After ipp folder swap it worked.

                        For the Juce path error, I just ignored.

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