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    • LindonL
      Lindon @Tania Ghosh
      last edited by

      @Tania-Ghosh said in Change default Appdata\Roaming\Plugins Location:

      @Christoph-Hart (Lets talk about windows only).... VST plugin installs on C:\Program Files\VstPlugins or C:\Program Files\Steinberg\VSTPlugins

      But when I update presets or If I need to change Presets, Expansions I have to go to C:\Appdata\Roaming\Plugins name\Presets....

      So I want to install presets,Expansions all inside
      C:\Program Files\VstPlugins\PluginsName

      And most interesting part is .. users(many of them are stupid also) don't find Appdata.... because it is hidden by default. So I want to put all things inside C:\Program Files\VstPlugins\PluginsName or
      C:\Program Files\Steinberg\VSTPlugins\PluginsName

      So.. assuming you DONT have a VST2 license, and thus are making VST3 plugins - the path you outline above is going to fail on you, and users are going to report not having access to your plugins when they install them.

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      • Christoph HartC
        Christoph Hart
        last edited by

        But what about the standalone version, should it also look in the plugin folder? What about AAX? Should it look in the VST folder? Also how should the plugin know where exactly that folder is - there is no standardized plugin directory and people use custom locations for this pretty often.

        The app data folder is there for a reason.

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        • Tania GhoshT
          Tania Ghosh @Christoph Hart
          last edited by Tania Ghosh

          @Christoph-Hart Ok I understand but is there a way to put all things to a Drive only... Lets say C:\PluginsName.... Appdata is hidden by default. That's why trying to bypass Appdata location. Many Software/plugins use Programdata.. this is also hidden.

          All resources (Image.dat,presets,Exp) will be placed on C:\PluginsName

          And VST,VST3,AAX etc will be place on user preferable places.... Is it possible?

          Tania Ghosh

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          • Christoph HartC
            Christoph Hart
            last edited by

            No. C:\plugin-name might be the most annoying directory you can think of - imagine everybody does this.

            Type %APPDATA% into the adress bar and it will take you there. Use this sentence in your customer support mails to spread the word about this magic trick.

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            • d.healeyD
              d.healey @Tania Ghosh
              last edited by d.healey

              @Tania-Ghosh

              users(many of them are stupid also) don't find Appdata.... because it is hidden by default. So I want to put all things inside

              They can access it from the preset browser in HISE. Go to the More menu and select the option to open presets folder.

              And VST,VST3,AAX etc will be place on user preferable places.... Is it possible?

              Check the standards for these formats. All (except VST2) have specific locations that they should be placed. VST3 for example - https://helpcenter.steinberg.de/hc/en-us/articles/115000177084-VST-plug-in-locations-on-Windows

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              • Tania GhoshT
                Tania Ghosh @Christoph Hart
                last edited by

                @Christoph-Hart I know %appdata% %programdata% etc...
                But end user may not find the hidden directories (Appdata).

                Anyway no problem. Thanks for your replies. :)

                Tania Ghosh

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                • Tania GhoshT
                  Tania Ghosh @d.healey
                  last edited by Tania Ghosh

                  @d-healey

                  They can access it from the preset browser in HISE. Go to the More menu and select the option to open presets folder.

                  I am talking for those cases when"ShowFolderButton": false

                  Check the standards for these formats. All (except VST2) have specific locations that they should be placed. VST3 for example -

                  I know where should I place VST,VST3 etc.. I was asking @Christoph-Hart only about Resources (Presesets,Exp etc) "Is there anyway to put any location except %appdata% "

                  Problem solved...It is not possible without modifying the source code. :)

                  Tania Ghosh

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                  • UD AUDIOU
                    UD AUDIO
                    last edited by UD AUDIO

                    Hi! I've made a thread about it (https://forum.hise.audio/topic/3788/questions-about-a-vsti-with-audio-loop-player-only?_=1620627723081)

                    My thought was to set the path per installer or in the plugin itself, so the user can select it.
                    Native Instruments plugins or HeatUp for example let you choose to store the library anywhere.
                    I think this way is good for any OS. It would be great to have this option.

                    Tried to give my plugin to a friend but he is a fool with computers.
                    He doesn't even know AppData and I do know it since win10.
                    The internet told me it is used for user data like savegames (, or presets) etc.
                    And those belong to the account only.

                    Like many programs that ask if you want to install for all users or just the active one.

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                    • Tania GhoshT
                      Tania Ghosh @UD AUDIO
                      last edited by

                      @UD-AUDIO

                      My thought was to set the path per installer or in the plugin itself, so the user can select it.

                      Native Instruments plugins or HeatUp for example let you choose to store the library anywhere.

                      I think this way is good for any OS. It would be great to have this option.

                      Yeah.. Correct

                      And one more problem I faced when I had sent one of my Sample based plugin to my friend for testing purpose. She was literally rebuked me, how to install samples (.ch1 or hr1 file) ?. I think Hise should be End User friendly in terms of installing Sample based plugins.
                      If anyone installs Effect Plugins or Basic Saw,Sine Synth it is fine but real pain begins when some one first attempts to install sample based plugins into their system.

                      Tania Ghosh

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                      • UD AUDIOU
                        UD AUDIO @Tania Ghosh
                        last edited by UD AUDIO

                        @Tania-Ghosh

                        Indeed! We had almost the same issues but I think
                        it was caused by renaming the project lately and missing something in the preferences.
                        The files were stored in AppData but something was still linked to MyCompany.
                        So the new folder appeared empty and my friend had no audiofiles.

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