JUCE 6



  • I just saw this - https://juce.com/discover/stories/announcing-juce-6

    Will HISE be upgrading to this version? I notice it has some new DSP stuff.



  • Hmm, the upgrade cost is rather steep, and everybody that uses HISE would have to pay the upgrade so I am not sure that's a viable step at the moment.

    I don't intend to stay on JUCE 5 forever though...



  • @Christoph-Hart There's an upgrade cost? Is this for commercial licensees?



  • ๐Ÿฎ ๐Ÿ„ Moo, milk, milk



  • @Christoph-Hart I wouldn't mind donating towards a HISE license. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.



  • There's an upgrade cost?

    Yes, if you have a JUCE 5 Pro license you'll get a 30% discount for the JUCE 6 Pro license, but it's still about 2.000$, so that Flanger better be good ๐Ÿ™‚



  • @Christoph-Hart Wow, crazy price for an upgrade. Have they replaced 70% of the code ๐Ÿ˜›



  • I can help to pitch in if weโ€™re going that route eventually..@Christoph-Hart still need the link to pay for closed source whenever your ready๐Ÿ™‚



  • It appears JUCE6 supports VST3 on GNU/Linux, so I'm interested in using it. @Christoph-Hart can HISE plugins be compiled using JUCE6 without HISE itself using JUCE6?



  • @d-healey I have juce 6 and for me it works (windows and mac). on the other hand with mac I must recover the autogenerated file and compile manually



  • @d-healey @Christoph-Hart
    I would like to understand something .. it may be silly but not so silly in the end ^^ if i buy a juce license and at the same time a hise license. if in 6 months i decide not to make any more plugin or vst, i have to continue paying? if the vst is developed in 2020 and I stop my license in 2021. what happens to my plugins? Do I have the right to keep selling them since they were developed under the licenses or do I have to pay for a license while they are on sale? I am interested in this subject because I would really like to start selling. the open gpl license (open thing thing) I do not understand anything and it seems restrictive to me.



  • @yall said in JUCE 6:

    @d-healey @Christoph-Hart
    I would like to understand something .. it may be silly but not so silly in the end ^^ if i buy a juce license and at the same time a hise license. if in 6 months i decide not to make any more plugin or vst, i have to continue paying? if the vst is developed in 2020 and I stop my license in 2021. what happens to my plugins? Do I have the right to keep selling them since they were developed under the licenses or do I have to pay for a license while they are on sale? I am interested in this subject because I would really like to start selling. the open gpl license (open thing thing) I do not understand anything and it seems restrictive to me.

    I'm curious about this also.

    the open gpl license (open thing thing) I do not understand anything and it seems restrictive to me.

    It's less restrictive for your users ๐Ÿ™‚



  • @d-healey if you know more one day let me know ๐Ÿ™‚
    @Christoph-Hart an Idea? ๐Ÿ™‚



  • @yall said in JUCE 6:

    @d-healey if you know more one day let me know ๐Ÿ™‚

    The GNU GPL guarantees certain "freedoms" for the end user, to achieve this the developer has to abide by some rules. The two main ones are: you can only include code that is released under the GNU GPL (or a compatible license) and you must make the human readable source code available to the end user.



  • @Christoph-Hart said in JUCE 6:

    Hmm, the upgrade cost is rather steep, and everybody that uses HISE would have to pay the upgrade so I am not sure that's a viable step at the moment.

    I don't intend to stay on JUCE 5 forever though...

    Yes, that is a bit costly for some. Itยดs too bad that JUCE do not handle cross-grades from one-time to monthly. Too bad that JUCE do not have a mini/startup yearly plan below 300. The one-time seems to be around the same as a per-month costs in as little as 1,6 years. I guess a lot of people here got the Indie plan. It seems to be an okay price for a yearly income of max 500usd. Of course the plan allows for that much but I canยดt imagine that the actual income for small/individual devs are astronomical or reaching those levels.

    @d-healey said in JUCE 6:

    @Christoph-Hart There's an upgrade cost? Is this for commercial licensees?

    I donยดt think JUCE has any but commercial ones. Unless you use the Personal or Education plan. Are you using one of those? (I guess the splash screen wouldn't be the worst thing if it did not break the branding)



  • @d-healey in fact, you just have to give the project hise, that's it? or a link to download it? I can put a plugin on a site for example 50๐Ÿ’ฒ and if I have a client I give him the complete file hise? or do I have to give the hise construction file + the project file?



  • @andioak I use the the GNU GPL.

    @yall said in JUCE 6:

    @d-healey in fact, you just have to give the project hise, that's it? or a link to download it? I can put a plugin on a site for example 50๐Ÿ’ฒ and if I have a client I give him the complete file hise? or do I have to give the hise construction file + the project file?

    You need to provide everything that is required to build the project, including the samples. You only have to provide this to someone that you have also distributed the binary to, so you don't have to make it publically available, but anyone you give it to can make it public if they choose to. I just upload my project to github (without the samples) and then anyone is free to download and use the source files. If someone purchases the binary and samples from me they are also given details of where they can find the source on github. You have to put the correct license information at the top of every source file.

    Make sure you read the whole license?



  • @d-healey I understand . I think I prefer to have a closed license. I will try to get a more precise answer from Christophe Hart on the license payment term



  • @yall I chose to have a closed license due to sample licensing and our vst3 being mainly a sampler. So we pay the juce fee and hise closed license fee And totals somewhere around 85/mo I believe. which isnโ€™t horrible for a closed license if you can make decent returns on your products.

    As for the open source license, I would actually prefer that route if our samples werenโ€™t made In house๐Ÿ™‚. Iโ€™m just iffy on the licensing coverage on open source samples.



  • @coreyu21 You can still release your library as free software to benefit your users and apply a proprietary license only to the samples. I believe that by doing this you wouldn't need a JUCE license, only a HISE license (but you'd need to check with Christoph to be sure).


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