Steeper slopes for Curve EQ



  • Would it be possible to add in a drop down menu for each band in the curve EQ so that we can choose a slope for the EQ?

    I've tried to replicate a 96db/oct slope similar to the one in Fab Filter Pro Q 2. You have to use a lot of bands to get anywhere close and it gets very messy. It's impossible to macro them together so they will all move at the same amounts (which is what I wanted to do with it).

    In FF pro Q 2 it takes about 5 seconds so with the choice of slopes it would make it a very quick easy job in HISE as well 🙂

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  • @SteveRiggs Yes, it's too bad not to have the choice. However, I don't understand the mess in your nodes.
    You should have all nodes with same values stacked onto each other, with a quality factor set to 0.7 (neutral)

    The steepness in Hise seems to be 12dB/oct, so you need to stack 8 nodes in order to attain 96dB/oct

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  • @ustk said in Steeper slopes for Curve EQ:

    I don't understand the mess in your nodes

    Niether do I mate. It's a total mess 🤣

    This though, is spot on!! Impressive stuff mate. I'm gonna see if I can apply this method. I've got a de-esser working now and have 3 eq's sent to different send fx routings so that I can just compress the middle one. As you can see though by the absolute state of my nodes, it wouldnt be that easy to sweep between frequenices like that so it would have been a static frequency, which I didnt want.

    I've been planning workarounds all afternoon and wasn't happy with any of them, so you may have just saved the day here. Thanks!



  • @ustk The slopes work great man. Thanks for your help there.

    Only trouble I'm having now is that my de-esser thats made up of 4 EQ's over 3 send fx channels is really filtering the overall sound. I'm trying to work out a way to compensate for it and have it still sound natural but not having much luck. Is there a way to do this you think?

    I'll put pictures of my 4 EQ's below.

    The first is on 7&8,
    The second and third are on 9&10,
    and the fourth is on 11&12.

    I have them all set to separate macros that sweep between these vaules:

    LOW EQ:
    4K - 7K

    MID EQ 1:
    4K - 7K

    MID EQ 2:
    7K - 10K

    HI EQ;
    7K - 10K

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  • @SteveRiggs I think I see what the problem is. It is creating a frequency gap that needs to be compensated.
    The HPF/LPF of Hise is maybe not following the Linkwitz-Riley rule (although I am not sure, but a quick test should show this) or the workaround is the cause of the gap.
    Anyway, there should be a formula that can compensate for this issue (making the HPF lower and the LPF higher)
    I did it once in Pro Tools, but I don't have the formula in mind, and I am not sure it is absolutely transparent (but if it is used for a side-chain detection only, that would do it)

    If I have the time I'll have a look online for a formula...



  • @ustk said in Steeper slopes for Curve EQ:

    The HPF/LPF of Hise is maybe not following the Linkwitz-Riley rule

    Of course not, this is what the Linkwitz-Riley filters in scriptnode are there for...



  • @Christoph-Hart If only I could work out how to use scriptnode or get a glimpse of a linkwitz-riley filter 🤣 I've had zero luck getting a peep out of it so far. I've been determinded to get this way working for weeks so I didn't hold everything up. It's proving to be a lot harder than I thought. I'm pretty sure it can be done with this method, even if it's not the best way to do it, so I'd love to achieve it the hard way first as it's very close aside from this filtering issue.



  • @ustk Thanks man. I've tried a few different angles but they all sound too harsh and un-natural. I'll have a google as well. if you find anything though please let me know 🤞



  • @Christoph-Hart @ustk Ok so I'm trying with scriptnode now. I stumbled across a snippet on another post and modified it a bit adding a compressor on the mid-band, and changed the range of the mid/high band to 4000 to 10000 to try and get this de-esser finished somehow as it's getting desperate now.

    I tried opening a blank project so I could rebuild it. I've added the script fx module and the correct scripts in the onInit through onControl tabs, but nothing shows up in scripnode. No node list or anywhere to start from or right or left click, just a blank panel.

    There's no other script in the snippet so I can't see what I'm doing wrong, as in the snippet there is a long list of stuff and a container already there that can be right-clicked on to add new nodes.

    So then I thought I'd try and use this one from the snippet, add a couple of sliders to link to the low and high split to test it works before trying to get it somehow transferred into my main project.. and as soon as I add an interface, HISE crashes and shuts down.

    This de-esser is causing me all kinds of hell now and wasting days that I could be making something else, but even with scriptnode or the old eq way I can't get it working properly. It's even more frustrating that it's the very last thing to do before this project is finished before the graphics.

    Very deflating 😧



  • @ustk said in Steeper slopes for Curve EQ:

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    Mate Thanks For Supplying This Awesome Snippet.
    Just A Quick Question Is It Possible To Change This For HP Use?



  • @Natanr It is High Pass...
    If you meant LP, I'm sure you'll find a way to switch the nodes from HP to LP in the EQ module 😉



  • @ustk oooh Silly Me 🤭 Just Need To Change The Shapes From Hp To Lp


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