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    • David HealeyD
      David Healey @Lindon
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      @Lindon In the project's app data folder there should be an Expansions folder. Inside there create a sub folder for your expansion.

      In that sub folder drop your hxi. Add a subfolder called UserPresets and another called Samples. Put your Link file in the Samples folder.

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      • LindonL
        Lindon @David Healey
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        @David-Healey golden, as it happens I dont have any expansion presets, so do I need the UserPresets Folder?

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        • David HealeyD
          David Healey @Lindon
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          @Lindon Only if you're using the preset browser and the user might make presets.

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          • LindonL
            Lindon @David Healey
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            @David-Healey OK well there no way in the instruments to open the preset browser (yeah strange I know) so crossing that off the list.

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            • LindonL
              Lindon @Lindon
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              Ok some progress...

              My player now loads a very simple test full instrument expansion....but the expansion cannot seem to find its sample maps....so Im doing something wrong...

              So how I have this set up:

              In my HISE project for the Player I have an Expansions folder, in there is an expansion folder (named for the expansion)

              inside the individual expansion folder I have the classic folder structure...

              999b173f-1e64-48c1-9f13-21d5ef0b0895-image.png

              ..as well as the info.hxi file

              In the Samples folder here I have a LinkWindows file (only)

              and in the SampleMaps folder I have all the xml sample maps for my expansion, but when I load my expansion using the player I get this in the sampler:

              f83d36dc-5b10-4f14-822a-4b4cd9870079-image.png

              So no sample maps found...

              How I set up my info.hxi file:

              I loaded my expansion as its own project, with sample and sample maps set up.. and generated the hxi using the export menu...

              What is it Im doing wrong?

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              • David HealeyD
                David Healey @Lindon
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                @Lindon said in Full Instrument Expansions - how, what where....:

                In my HISE project for the Player I have an Expansions folder, in there is an expansion folder (named for the expansion)

                The expansions should be completely separate HISE projects

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                • LindonL
                  Lindon @David Healey
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                  @David-Healey it is... I have a seperare expansion project...which is where the hxi is being generated - then Im copying over to the player (in the Players exapnsions sub folder structure)..

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                  • David HealeyD
                    David Healey @Lindon
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                    @Lindon Nothing goes in the player project's Expansions folder. Put your hxi, UserPresets, and Samples folder (with Link file) in the player's AppData Expansions folder.

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                    • LindonL
                      Lindon @David Healey
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                      @David-Healey Okay.... now nothing works from within the Players HISE project -- does this ONLY work in a compiled plugin?

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                      • David HealeyD
                        David Healey @Lindon
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                        @Lindon No it will work in HISE if you've set the player project to use Full Expansions and the encryption key matches the one used for the expansion project.

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                        • LindonL
                          Lindon @David Healey
                          last edited by Lindon

                          @David-Healey well I have and it doesnt....now nothing happens at all...so Im still doing something wrong..

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                          • David HealeyD
                            David Healey @Lindon
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                            @Lindon This is how my app data folder looks for Rhapsody, is your structure similar?

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                            • LindonL
                              Lindon @David Healey
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                              @David-Healey yes:

                              7323d09a-d7d6-4b72-8656-41e321487896-image.png

                              Samples has only LinkWindows in it

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                              • David HealeyD
                                David Healey @Lindon
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                                @Lindon No need for the sample maps folder, the sample maps are embedded in the hxi. How are you expecting the expansions to show up in your player HISE project?

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                                  Lindon @David Healey
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                                  @David-Healey it shows up as taking over the entire screen with a LOUD ui.....

                                  heres what Im doing to call the expansion

                                  reg eh = Engine.createExpansionHandler();
                                  
                                  function instrumentMouseCallBack(event,panel)
                                  {
                                  	if(event.doubleClick)
                                  	{
                                  		pos = InstrumentPanels.indexOf(panel);
                                  		tempMouseJSON = getJSONforInstPanel(pos);
                                  		//Content.getComponent("Label1").set("text", "here we load an expansion called:" + tempMouseJSON.ExpName);
                                  		
                                  		
                                  		Console.clear();
                                  		Console.print("loading an instrument........." + tempMouseJSON.ExpName);
                                  		for(e in eh.getExpansionList())
                                  		{
                                  			Console.print("the name of the expansion is:" + e.getProperties().Name);
                                  		}
                                  		
                                  		eh.setCurrentExpansion("KeyEngineTest");
                                  	}
                                  };
                                  

                                  ..and now its not printing "the name of the expansion is..."

                                  So its not finding any expansions....

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                                  • LindonL
                                    Lindon @Lindon
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                                    @Lindon right now the expansions own project cant even find the sample maps in its own project structure...this is getting silly.

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                                      David Healey @Lindon
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                                      @Lindon

                                      You're loading the expansion directly after that loop so the loading of the expansion probably wipes out the output, not sure.

                                      Try putting that loop in on init right after you declare your expansion handler.

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                                        David Healey @Lindon
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                                        @Lindon said in Full Instrument Expansions - how, what where....:

                                        right now the expansions own project cant even find the sample maps in its own project structure...this is getting silly.

                                        Do you mean when you load it through the player project?

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                                        • LindonL
                                          Lindon @David Healey
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                                          @David-Healey no - just loading the expansion project...it cant find anything, rebuilding a new test expansion project now.... called Test2

                                          ..ok thats back to working at least... now:

                                          Building the hx1 file....
                                          Expansion type = Full
                                          Encryption key = Test

                                          OK creating a new folder called Test2 in the AppData folder structure of the Player

                                          Adding a Samples folder - with the LinkWindows file in it only...
                                          Adding an empty UserPresets folder
                                          putting my info.hxi that I just generated in the Test2 folder...

                                          to get to this:

                                          ab21842f-20f0-45ae-9d49-99d534ada489-image.png

                                          I load the Player project and execute this code:

                                          reg eh = Engine.createExpansionHandler();
                                          reg expansionList = eh.getExpansionList();
                                          function instrumentMouseCallBack(event,panel)
                                          {
                                          	//Console.print(trace(event));
                                          	if(event.doubleClick)
                                          	{
                                          		pos = InstrumentPanels.indexOf(panel);
                                          		tempMouseJSON = getJSONforInstPanel(pos);
                                          		//Content.getComponent("Label1").set("text", "here we load an expansion called:" + tempMouseJSON.ExpName);
                                          		Console.print("loading an instrument........." + tempMouseJSON.ExpName);
                                          		Console.clear();
                                          		for(e in expansionList)
                                          		{
                                          			Console.print("the name of the expansion is:" + e.getProperties().Name);
                                          		}
                                          		
                                          		eh.setCurrentExpansion("Test2");
                                          		//Console.print(trace(eh.getExpansionList()));
                                          	}
                                          };
                                          

                                          and nothing happens.......it cannot find the list of expansions in its AppData folder...

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                                          • LindonL
                                            Lindon @Lindon
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                                            @Lindon

                                            Interface: the app data folder is:C:\Users\Lindon\AppData\Roaming\NomadSounds\KeyEngine
                                            Interface: the number of expansions found is:0
                                            

                                            😢

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