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    • OrvillainO
      Orvillain @Christoph Hart
      last edited by

      @Christoph-Hart I have the JUCE minimal host, but whenever I add this test plugin to it, it crashes on scan. No useful log out of it.

      How do I build a debug version of my plugin? Open the xcode project and change the run target to debug? There isn't a way to do one from inside HISE directly is there?

      Musician - Instrument Designer - Sonic Architect - Creative Product Owner
      Crafting sound at every level. From strings to signal paths, samples to systems.

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      • OrvillainO
        Orvillain
        last edited by Orvillain

        Right. So I emptied my Scriptnode network. Completely. Just a blank network. Compiled it. 1 channel. Re-launched HISE. Re-exported my plugin with the hardcoded network loaded as a global modulator.

        Still crashes. I don't think it is to do with the contents of the network. Just the fact I have a hardcoded script envelope modulator in the global modulators altogether.

        If I remove the Matrix Modulator on the waveform generator, but keep the global modulator (again, hardcoded envelope, but the network has nothing in it) and it still crashes.

        At this point, I can only assume it is a configuration issue, or a HISE specific crash that I'm not describing well enough for you to reproduce it, Christoph.

        Only other thing I can think is if you take my dropbox project above, compile the network in HISE on your Mac, and export the plugin your side and see if it crashes ???

        The moment I remove the global modulator hardcodedenvelope instance, the plugin will load in any host.

        FULL SPECS:
        Macbook Pro M1 (2021)
        MacOS 15.5 (24F74)
        Xcode version: Version 16.4 (16F6)
        Hise commit: 162f714b4b49264abf8081199ae9fe2d46c8a040

        Musician - Instrument Designer - Sonic Architect - Creative Product Owner
        Crafting sound at every level. From strings to signal paths, samples to systems.

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        • OrvillainO
          Orvillain
          last edited by

          I opened the blankplugin xcode project. Set the scheme to debug. Compiled the plugin. I get blankplugin debug.vst3 out at the end, as well as blankplugin debug.a library file. Copy the plugin to the plugins folder, make sure the old one is no longer there.

          It shows up in the DAW, and it does not crash.

          Sooooo... debug version not crashing.... release version... crashing. That I don't understand.

          Musician - Instrument Designer - Sonic Architect - Creative Product Owner
          Crafting sound at every level. From strings to signal paths, samples to systems.

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          • OrvillainO
            Orvillain
            last edited by

            Yeah man, this is wild AF. The debug version works fine - even the hardcoded global envelope modulator is working.

            There's something skwicky with my release build. Maybe I compiled HISE with a flag or setting, set incorrectly....???

            Musician - Instrument Designer - Sonic Architect - Creative Product Owner
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            • OrvillainO
              Orvillain
              last edited by Orvillain

              Turning off link-time optimization in the xcode project seems to stop the crash from happening. It was originally set to 'Monolithic' for release, and turned off for 'debug' so that explains why debug was working and release was not.

              I'm trying to build a release version with symbol support so I can see what the heck is going on.

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              Crafting sound at every level. From strings to signal paths, samples to systems.

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              • OrvillainO
                Orvillain
                last edited by Orvillain

                @Christoph-Hart

                I turned on all symbol support and recompiled with LTO set to 'Monolithic' and this is the crash I get:

                Thread 0 Crashed:: MainThread Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
                0   blankplugin                   	       0x17d35567c hise::HardcodedSwappableEffect::setEffect(juce::String const&, bool) + 2680
                1   blankplugin                   	       0x17d35d4fc hise::HardcodedSwappableEffect::restoreHardcodedData(juce::ValueTree const&) + 308
                2   blankplugin                   	       0x17d13ae60 hise::Processor::restoreFromValueTree(juce::ValueTree const&) + 3376
                3   blankplugin                   	       0x17d14679c hise::EnvelopeModulator::restoreFromValueTree(juce::ValueTree const&) + 40
                4   blankplugin                   	       0x17d13ae60 hise::Processor::restoreFromValueTree(juce::ValueTree const&) + 3376
                5   blankplugin                   	       0x17d17702c hise::ModulatorSynth::restoreFromValueTree(juce::ValueTree const&) + 1496
                6   blankplugin                   	       0x17d368ce0 non-virtual thunk to hise::GlobalModulatorContainer::restoreFromValueTree(juce::ValueTree const&) + 40
                7   blankplugin                   	       0x17d13ae60 hise::Processor::restoreFromValueTree(juce::ValueTree const&) + 3376
                8   blankplugin                   	       0x17d17702c hise::ModulatorSynth::restoreFromValueTree(juce::ValueTree const&) + 1496
                9   blankplugin                   	       0x17d1ad784 hise::ModulatorSynthChain::restoreFromValueTree(juce::ValueTree const&) + 336
                10  blankplugin                   	       0x17d40d3f0 hise::FrontendProcessor::createPreset(juce::ValueTree const&) + 152
                11  blankplugin                   	       0x17d40bd84 hise::FrontendProcessor::FrontendProcessor(juce::ValueTree&, juce::AudioDeviceManager*, juce::AudioProcessorPlayer*, juce::MemoryInputStream*, juce::MemoryInputStream*, juce::MemoryInputStream*, juce::MemoryInputStream*, juce::ValueTree*, juce::ValueTree*) + 10924
                12  blankplugin                   	       0x17d062294 juce::JuceVST3Component::JuceVST3Component(Steinberg::Vst::IHostApplication*) + 4404
                13  blankplugin                   	       0x17d059fa0 juce::createComponentInstance(Steinberg::Vst::IHostApplication*) + 36
                14  blankplugin                   	       0x17d06de18 juce::JucePluginFactory::createInstance(char const*, char const*, void**) + 216
                15  Live                          	       0x106e308c4 0x104860000 + 39651524
                16  Live                          	       0x106c5261c 0x104860000 + 37692956
                17  Live                          	       0x106c52008 0x104860000 + 37691400
                18  Live                          	       0x106c51824 0x104860000 + 37689380
                19  Live                          	       0x105c147e4 0x104860000 + 20662244
                20  Live                          	       0x105c144ac 0x104860000 + 20661420
                21  Live                          	       0x105c233d8 0x104860000 + 20722648
                22  Live                          	       0x105bf8cf4 0x104860000 + 20548852
                23  Live                          	       0x106e38890 0x104860000 + 39684240
                24  Live                          	       0x106db8758 0x104860000 + 39159640
                25  Live                          	       0x106d50b38 0x104860000 + 38734648
                26  Live                          	       0x1062bb118 0x104860000 + 27635992
                27  Live                          	       0x1062e3de0 0x104860000 + 27803104
                28  Live                          	       0x106280154 0x104860000 + 27394388
                29  Live                          	       0x1062e1084 0x104860000 + 27791492
                30  Live                          	       0x1062e0d08 0x104860000 + 27790600
                31  Live                          	       0x1062e0ec0 0x104860000 + 27791040
                32  Live                          	       0x1070c5b7c 0x104860000 + 42359676
                33  Live                          	       0x1076ca798 0x104860000 + 48670616
                34  Live                          	       0x1076ca408 0x104860000 + 48669704
                35  Live                          	       0x1059e44ec 0x104860000 + 18367724
                36  Live                          	       0x10572f654 0x104860000 + 15529556
                37  Live                          	       0x10572f1c4 0x104860000 + 15528388
                38  Live                          	       0x10593dc9c 0x104860000 + 17685660
                39  Foundation                    	       0x1949d0fcc __NSFireTimer + 104
                40  CoreFoundation                	       0x1933e2e14 __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_A_TIMER_CALLBACK_FUNCTION__ + 32
                41  CoreFoundation                	       0x1933e2ad4 __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 980
                42  CoreFoundation                	       0x1933e2610 __CFRunLoopDoTimers + 332
                43  CoreFoundation                	       0x1933c8a18 __CFRunLoopRun + 1848
                44  CoreFoundation                	       0x1933c7c58 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 572
                45  HIToolbox                     	       0x19ee5c27c RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 324
                46  HIToolbox                     	       0x19ee5f4e8 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 676
                47  HIToolbox                     	       0x19efea484 _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 76
                48  AppKit                        	       0x1972efab4 _DPSNextEvent + 684
                49  AppKit                        	       0x197c8e5b0 -[NSApplication(NSEventRouting) _nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 688
                50  AppKit                        	       0x1972e2c64 -[NSApplication run] + 480
                51  Live                          	       0x10593d068 0x104860000 + 17682536
                52  dyld                          	       0x192f3eb98 start + 6076
                
                

                Looks to be related to restoring a JUCE value tree??

                This does not happen when LTO is set to 'No' - I'm going to try 'Incremental' as well - I'm changing the VST3 and the SharedCode targets.

                BTW - this crash happens with or without calling .setEffect() in my Interface script. IE: Even if I comment this out:

                const var HardcodedEnvelopeModulator1 = Synth.getSlotFX("HardcodedEnvelopeModulator1");
                HardcodedEnvelopeModulator1.setEffect("ScriptEnvNetwork");
                

                I still get the crash.

                Musician - Instrument Designer - Sonic Architect - Creative Product Owner
                Crafting sound at every level. From strings to signal paths, samples to systems.

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                • OrvillainO
                  Orvillain
                  last edited by

                  ScriptEnvNetwork.xml

                  This is my network file.

                  Musician - Instrument Designer - Sonic Architect - Creative Product Owner
                  Crafting sound at every level. From strings to signal paths, samples to systems.

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                  • OrvillainO
                    Orvillain
                    last edited by Orvillain

                    Attaching xcode as a debugger - which to do I had to use this script:https://gist.github.com/talaviram/1f21e141a137744c89e81b58f73e23c3

                    So yes, it is definitely crashing in setEffect. It looks like
                    d7dfbd52-902c-4b04-a5c3-3b45a3558751-image.png

                    ->  0x3419347c4 <+2820>: ldar   w8, [x0]
                    MainThread (1): EXC_BAD_ACCESS (code=1, address=0xfffffffffffffff0)
                    

                    So I would suggest that link-time optimization is corrupting a pointer, and garbage is being fed into setEffect() but I am honestly reaching the limits of my debugging skills here now.

                    Closest I can get to is:
                    HISE/hi_core/hi_modules/hardcoded/HardcodedModuleBase.cpp

                    Line 427:
                    bool HardcodedSwappableEffect::setEffect(const String& factoryId, bool /unused/)

                    The crash happens somewhere in this function.

                    @Christoph-Hart Is any of this useful??

                    Musician - Instrument Designer - Sonic Architect - Creative Product Owner
                    Crafting sound at every level. From strings to signal paths, samples to systems.

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                    • OrvillainO
                      Orvillain
                      last edited by

                      I believe it is this part blowing up:

                      HISE/hi_core/hi_modules/hardcoded/HardcodedModuleBase.cpp:506
                      → asProcessor().parameterNames.removeRange(getParameterOffset(), INT_MAX);
                      

                      This is what I got when I did a trace using a release build with symbols, with xcode attached to Ableton Live.

                      (lldb) image lookup --address $pc
                            Address: blankplugin[0x000000000030167c] (blankplugin.__TEXT.__text + 3146236)
                            Summary: blankplugin`hise::HardcodedSwappableEffect::setEffect(juce::String const&, bool) + 2680 [inlined] int std::__1::__cxx_atomic_load[abi:ne190102]<int>(std::__1::__cxx_atomic_base_impl<int> const*, std::__1::memory_order) at cxx_atomic_impl.h:317:10
                                     blankplugin`hise::HardcodedSwappableEffect::setEffect(juce::String const&, bool) + 2680 [inlined] std::__1::__atomic_base<int, false>::load[abi:ne190102](std::__1::memory_order) const at atomic_base.h:59:12
                                     blankplugin`hise::HardcodedSwappableEffect::setEffect(juce::String const&, bool) + 2680 [inlined] juce::Atomic<int>::get() const at juce_Atomic.h:64:60
                                     blankplugin`hise::HardcodedSwappableEffect::setEffect(juce::String const&, bool) + 2680 [inlined] juce::StringHolder::isEmptyString(juce::StringHolder*) at juce_String.cpp:219:33
                                     blankplugin`hise::HardcodedSwappableEffect::setEffect(juce::String const&, bool) + 2680 [inlined] juce::StringHolder::release(juce::StringHolder*) at juce_String.cpp:162:15
                                     blankplugin`hise::HardcodedSwappableEffect::setEffect(juce::String const&, bool) + 2680 [inlined] juce::StringHolder::release(juce::CharPointer_UTF8) + 4 at juce_String.cpp:169:9
                                     blankplugin`hise::HardcodedSwappableEffect::setEffect(juce::String const&, bool) + 2676 [inlined] juce::String::~String() + 4 at juce_String.cpp:247:5
                                     blankplugin`hise::HardcodedSwappableEffect::setEffect(juce::String const&, bool) + 2672 [inlined] juce::String::~String() at juce_String.cpp:246:1
                                     blankplugin`hise::HardcodedSwappableEffect::setEffect(juce::String const&, bool) + 2672 [inlined] juce::Identifier::~Identifier() at juce_Identifier.cpp:27:37
                                     blankplugin`hise::HardcodedSwappableEffect::setEffect(juce::String const&, bool) + 2672 [inlined] juce::Identifier::~Identifier() at juce_Identifier.cpp:27:36
                                     blankplugin`hise::HardcodedSwappableEffect::setEffect(juce::String const&, bool) + 2672 [inlined] std::__1::enable_if<!IsTriviallyCopyable<juce::Identifier>::value, void>::type juce::ArrayBase<juce::Identifier, juce::DummyCriticalSection>::removeElementsInternal<juce::Identifier>(int, int) + 60 at juce_ArrayBase.h:508:31
                                     blankplugin`hise::HardcodedSwappableEffect::setEffect(juce::String const&, bool) + 2612 [inlined] juce::ArrayBase<juce::Identifier, juce::DummyCriticalSection>::removeElements(int, int) at juce_ArrayBase.h:363:13
                                     blankplugin`hise::HardcodedSwappableEffect::setEffect(juce::String const&, bool) + 2612 [inlined] juce::Array<juce::Identifier, juce::DummyCriticalSection, 0>::removeRange(int, int) at juce_Array.h:926:20
                                     blankplugin`hise::HardcodedSwappableEffect::setEffect(juce::String const&, bool) + 2612 at HardcodedModuleBase.cpp:506:33
                      
                      (lldb) frame select 13
                      expr -- (int)getParameterOffset()
                      expr -- (int)asProcessor().parameterNames.size()
                      frame #13: 0x000000017d679638 blankplugin`hise::HardcodedSwappableEffect::setEffect(this=0x000000011dcb8000, factoryId=<unavailable>, (null)=<unavailable>) at HardcodedModuleBase.cpp:506:33 [opt]
                         503 			}
                         504 			else
                         505 			{
                      -> 506 				asProcessor().parameterNames.removeRange(getParameterOffset(), INT_MAX);
                          				                             ^
                         507 			}
                         508 	
                         509 			auto illegalIds = getIllegalParameterIds();
                      (int) $4 = 2
                      error: Couldn't look up symbols:
                        __ZN4hise24HardcodedSwappableEffect11asProcessorEv
                      Hint: The expression tried to call a function that is not present in the target, perhaps because it was optimized out by the compiler.
                      

                      Is any of this useful?

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                      • OrvillainO
                        Orvillain
                        last edited by

                        Just to be super sure, I scrapped all my custom HISE changes - increasing script node parameter limit to 64 and setting the channel count in the macros file to 128 - and I still get the same crash.

                        Musician - Instrument Designer - Sonic Architect - Creative Product Owner
                        Crafting sound at every level. From strings to signal paths, samples to systems.

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                        • OrvillainO
                          Orvillain
                          last edited by Orvillain

                          I completely wiped HISE off my system, and re-cloned the latest develop.

                          I started a completely new project. All it has is a global modulation container, with a hardcoded envelope modulator in it. The modulator is an oscillator going into a sig2mod.

                          I tried it with zero parameters, and then I tried it with 1 parameter, and then I tried it with 2 parameters, and then I tried it with 3 parameters. I even also did 10 parameters, 7 of which were connected to the various available parameters, and 3 not connected.

                          In all cases, I get the crash. I didn't bother messing with dsym symbols for this one. It's the same crash. Blatantly. Here is the project:
                          https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/steiw1ydyaq48runfv2i5/anewblankproject.zip?rlkey=or36uwjbj42f0e5tqqrto4dsp&st=rkg2otg6&dl=0

                          And here's the previous one:
                          https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/g5235ul4gkviziv0j6n8r/blankplugin.zip?rlkey=tdxaelcnteyrjy9i8de1bhkqu&dl=0

                          Conclusion: There seems to be an issue with link-time optimization, optimizing away something to do with global modulator hardcoded envelope networks. But I don't know what.

                          @Christoph-Hart - I'm kinda dead in the water on MacOS until I can figure this out. I have a build I need to send to a client. I suppose I could disable LTO for now, but this is verrrrryyyy strange. Would love to get to the bottom of it.

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                          Crafting sound at every level. From strings to signal paths, samples to systems.

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                          • Christoph HartC
                            Christoph Hart @Orvillain
                            last edited by

                            @Orvillain yeah, that's really a weird issue - I can reproduce it but also just with the release configuration + LTO - any change to the build flags stop the crash.

                            I slightly rewrote the code and now it stopped crashing. I don't know why it fixes anything, but let me know if that helps.

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                            • OrvillainO
                              Orvillain @Christoph Hart
                              last edited by

                              @Christoph-Hart Yep, that has fixed it, thanks!!

                              Musician - Instrument Designer - Sonic Architect - Creative Product Owner
                              Crafting sound at every level. From strings to signal paths, samples to systems.

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