Polyphonic Aftertouch?

[Morphoice]

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[ulrik]

@Morphoice said in Polyphonic Aftertouch?:

Has anyone ever got it working? if so, how?
All attempts fail on my end and I'd really appreciate some help

Do you have a starting snippet of what you have tried?

[Morphoice]

@ulrik sure, this is thinned down to the structure I have.
It works fine to channel aftertouch the filter cutoff, but not poly

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[ulrik]

@Morphoice thanks!

Well I got interested in how Hise can handle Polyphonic Aftertouch, and since I don't have any keyboard that can send that information I decided to try out if I could build something in Hise that could send polyphonic aftertouch.
I know u-he Diva instrument could receive that information, so I built an MidiFX plugin to test and see if it would work.

Here I have a panel that register what keys are pressed and I could change the send information per/note.

VIDEO

I know it's not an answer to your question though, well at least we can see that Hise is capable of sending that information

[Morphoice]

@ulrik yep in theory it should be able to work the other way around as well just seems no one knows how :))

[ulrik]

@ulrik Hise seems to receive polyphonic aftertouch as well, cc 129, right note number and right pressure value

Since I don't own a keyboard that is supporting polyphonic aftertouch, the valueshere is created using a Plogue Bidule remapper
remapping cc number to pressed note, cc value to value

[Lindon]

@ulrik I think you will find that CC129 is (from time to time) Channel Aftertouch in HISE - now it seems to be Poly aftertouch too... see my post about CC128 and CC129 and how they are badly mapped in the CC Modulators....

[Morphoice]

@ulrik how can I pass this to a polyphonic scriptnode? I was under the impression the midi_cc node would automatically receive the appropriate pressure info of its played note

[Morphoice]

bump ;)

[ulrik]

@Morphoice I have no idea, sorry!
So the filter should work in a polyphonic setup, I had the impression that it is monophonic?

[Morphoice]

@ulrik nah this is for a cs-80 emulation, so polyphony is somewhat crucial :)) can't make the synth that made polyphonic aftertouch famous without including polyphonic aftertouch ;) about everything works so far but this (and portamento)

was more of a general bump though. maybe @Christoph-Hart is the only one who can answer this

[Morphoice]

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[ulrik]

@Morphoice I found a way to receive polyphonic aftertouch and set in a polyphonic scriptnode fx environment , Using the Global Routing Manager

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[ulrik]

@ulrik and this is a minimal snippet how I have set it up

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[ulrik]

@ulrik I forgot to tell that it's working as a compiled dsp as well

[Morphoice]

@ulrik brilliant! you are the absolute goat ;))) I'll study this and hopefully will be able to apply it to my synth. thank you

[ulrik]

@Morphoice Let us know how it goes!

[Morphoice]

@ulrik I integrated everything, I cant test it in HISE only with the plugin compiled, and that seems to crash cubase (Crashed Thread: 116 Javascript Thread) during a poly pressure message, only if the plug GUI is open though. if I leave it closed, it plays a sound - however no change in filter upon pressure. weird. any Ideas where I should start looking?

[d.healey]

@Morphoice said in Polyphonic Aftertouch?:

only if the plug GUI is open though

Have you put the code in your deferred UI script?

[Morphoice]

@d-healey yes does it have to go extra into a seperate script?