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    • StraticahS
      Straticah @HISEnberg
      last edited by

      @HISEnberg yeah makes total sense to me. In my mind samplerate and poles were not directly connected but it seems to be like that. I am not able to use anything else than LW filters unfortunately.

      Any experience on reducing CPU impact of oversampling containers?

      I would have 4 separate container one for low, mid, high, master softclip.

      Hope this is not more of an impact as wrapping the plugin into one.

      building user interfaces in HISE :)
      web: www.vst-design.com

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      • HISEnbergH
        HISEnberg @Straticah
        last edited by

        @Straticah Realistically I don't think there is a way of reducing CPU for oversampling, except by using the minimum amount of the oversample container as possible. I think trying to compensate with some math might be a solution.

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        • StraticahS
          Straticah @Straticah
          last edited by

          @Christoph-Hart any suggestions to keep the oversampling containers to a minimum while not processing the filters of my example since they behave that way?

          building user interfaces in HISE :)
          web: www.vst-design.com

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          • Matt_SFM
            Matt_SF @Straticah
            last edited by

            @Straticah The filter curves are moving but it doesn't change the sound. It seems to be affecting the display only:

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            If you wrap the whole bands filters into one oversampling node, you'll consume less CPU than wrapping each band into separate OS nodes obviously, but there's not way to further decrease the CPU consumption.
            Keep in mind that once the node will be compiled, it will consume less CPU that it does in the scriptnode graph.

            Develop branch
            Win10 & VS17 / Ventura & Xcode 14. 3

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            • StraticahS
              Straticah @Matt_SF
              last edited by

              @Matt_SF interesting in my compiled build it was indeed audible, i will check your example thank you :)

              building user interfaces in HISE :)
              web: www.vst-design.com

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              • A
                aaronventure
                last edited by aaronventure

                It's a known bug, the oversampling messes up the filter display (by the same factor probably).

                It shouldn't affect the sound (haven't checked compiled plugin). The workaround is to duplicate your filter setup in a separate node (could be a modchain node), output these filters to the same external slot, put them into a soft bypass node so that they're not actually using up your CPU and then use them for the display while using the oversampled filters for the actual processing.

                Hacky, but it should work.

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                • Matt_SFM
                  Matt_SF @aaronventure
                  last edited by

                  @aaronventure Hacky indeed, but I confirm it works :grinning_face_with_sweat:

                  Develop branch
                  Win10 & VS17 / Ventura & Xcode 14. 3

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                  • StraticahS
                    Straticah @Matt_SF
                    last edited by

                    @Matt_SF @aaronventure if its indeed just visible i might have messed up the dial linking when wrapping into an oversampling container. because in my build it was very audible and unusable.

                    Will do that again and double check. If its just visual i will not have a problem with that. thank you.

                    building user interfaces in HISE :)
                    web: www.vst-design.com

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                    • orangeO
                      orange @Straticah
                      last edited by

                      @Straticah If you have Plugin Doctor app, you can also check it from there. This will give you a better understanding of whether it's affecting your sound or not.

                      develop Branch / XCode 13.1
                      macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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                      • griffinboyG
                        griffinboy @Straticah
                        last edited by

                        @Straticah

                        Antialiasing gets complex if you want to minimise oversampling.
                        You have to dig into the research and develop your own filters

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