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    • d.healeyD
      d.healey
      last edited by

      There used to be a tooltip panel at the top of the HISE UI. When did it get removed? Can we get it back? It is super useful for discovering features of the UI and what different controls in modules do.

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      • ulrikU
        ulrik @d.healey
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        @d-healey yes you're right, it's very useful

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        • Matt_SFM
          Matt_SF @d.healey
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          @d-healey it might be a display bug: I noticed yesterday that if you use a floating tile to display the tooltips, there are still not showing...

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          • d.healeyD
            d.healey @Matt_SF
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            @Matt_SF Tooltip panel works here

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            • Matt_SFM
              Matt_SF @d.healey
              last edited by Matt_SF

              @d-healey ah. It was not working on windows. Using a floating tile, neither HISE tooltips, nor UI widgets tooltips were being displayed...

              Edit: but it was on someone else's project. I never display the tooltips using a floating tile so I'll have to check again

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              • d.healeyD
                d.healey
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                Here's the culprit - https://github.com/christophhart/HISE/commit/d439b40f7e7f04592868b533b7ae26ad2bde3c25

                @Christoph-Hart Is the idea that we're meant to add a floating popup window to show tooltips?

                If so I think this is a terrible idea. Tooltips probably benefit new users the most and the custom popout system is not very discoverable so new users will have no idea what anything on the UI does.

                In general I'm not a fan of having lots of little floating windows and there's all this spare room in the header that is perfect for the tooltips to be displayed. I think even on a small monitor there should be enough room there.

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                • Christoph HartC
                  Christoph Hart @d.healey
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                  @d-healey no the idea is to switch to a „normal“ tooltip style which shows a little popup next to the mouse if you hover over stuff and remove the static panel on the HISE windows while keeping the TooltipPanel functionality for user interfaces.

                  I noticed some glitches with second windows though and I‘ll take a look when I‘m back.

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                  • d.healeyD
                    d.healey @Christoph Hart
                    last edited by d.healey

                    @Christoph-Hart said in Where has HISE's tooltips panel gone?:

                    tooltip style which shows a little popup next to the mouse

                    Aha, this idea I like more :) And I actually somehow didn't notice it's there.

                    Could you make it work when hovering over controls in scripts - not the UI script necessarily (that would probably be annoying) but other scripts? I like to make lots of little scripts to do various tasks and I use the tooltips to document what each control does so that I don't have to keep poking around in the code.

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                    • Christoph HartC
                      Christoph Hart @d.healey
                      last edited by

                      @d-healey it should work already globally but I might have to reduce the delay before it appears. I cannot distinguish between UI and other stuff though without nasty hacks in the JUCE code so if you have a TooltipPanel it will appear twice.

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                      • d.healeyD
                        d.healey @Christoph Hart
                        last edited by

                        @Christoph-Hart Not showing here

                        Peek 2024-08-25 14-53.gif

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