How to make Mid-Side processing?

orange

@orange said in How to make Mid-Side processing?:

@ustk said in How to make Mid-Side processing?:

@Jay It is working as expected for me once exported...

I experience this problems, you can try and see it on Hise too (no need to export).

When you insert a Parametric EQ after the MS Encode, and set it 9-10 (side); If the positive gain eq band is active, sides effected as expected. But if you cut or give negative gain to the band, sides are not effecting! That's weird.
In contrary, when you set the Parametric EQ to 7-8 (mid); If you cut or give the negative gain to the eq band, mids are effected as expected. But if you add a positive gain to the eq band, mids and sides are effected simultaneously. Mids and Sides should process independantly, shouldn't they?

It is not working properly as expected from a M/S process. I don't know maybe that occurs because of the 0.707 number or other thing.

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@ustk did you try that, see the issue?

ustk

@orange It is working just fine on my side
Here is a new snippet, with some improvements (solo, typo corrections for the channel names in the comments, level corrected)

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for info, the *0.707 is here to compensate the fact my Mid and Side are going each into 2 channels, so we need a -3dB (sqrt(2)) in order to compensate that, nothing else... I think it can be done in a better way, because I am the opposite of a code guru
But because of the routing I chose, this the way to proceed (for me again)
When you think about it, in a DAW, this is the same thing, but it just happens under the hood, just behind the Pan Law of your DAW. When you set your Stereo Pan to mono, the DAW compensate automatically by -3dB (but the value can be DAW dependent, even customized sometimes)

orange

@ustk Did you try the Parametric EQ and see the issues that I wrote?

ustk

@orange This is what I said above, "It is working just fine on my side"
The last snippet has two PAR EQ, when I solo M or S, everything works, boost AND cut, and they're not modifying each other...

Jay

@ustk the problem I'm facing is no audio coming out

orange

@ustk Thanks man, I will try the latest snippet deeply,
Best....

orange

@ustk said in How to make Mid-Side processing?:

@orange This is what I said above, "It is working just fine on my side"
The last snippet has two PAR EQ, when I solo M or S, everything works, boost AND cut, and they're not modifying each other...

I used the latest snippet directly, without editing. I faced same issue with @Jay , there is no sound in the exported plugin. Also nomally this snippet weirdly works but when I compile the GUI, sound becomes zero. LR gain sets zero, also Mid button on the GUI, is not working. You can try and see the issue with importing your snippet (not from project file)

Jay

@orange I was starting to believe that it was me doing it wrong, but I guess not

ustk

I thought the snippet I posted didn't have the MS button sorry, just don't use it because I haven't fully connected it so it behaves weirdly…
Did you add a wav in the sampler?
When you export to standalone, does it work?

Jay

@ustk it didn't work.

Is this supposed to a VSTi or VST (Instrument or Plugin)?

Jay

I think we'll need an intervention from the master @Christoph-Hart

ustk

A VSTi if you have a sampler inside obviously...
Please try standalone first, that's the easiest…
I honestly don't understand why it doesn't work for you guys, it is just routings and a sampler, there no reason something weird is happening in that part

Jay

@ustk but why don't you post your working snippet?

ustk

Hum… I did it approximately 5 times in this thread… and all of them are working for me, in Hise and once exported. Do you think I am giving you something that doesn't work while I am working with something else?

Jay

@ustk I can confirm only the mid work in standalone but no the sides, but I think we don't need it to work as an instrument we need it as a plugin.

orange

I think @ustk code is ok, but there is a weird bug that we can't find yet.

ustk

Ok...
I replaced the sampler for a synth with stereo content, so you don't need to care of the source anymore...
I added 2 buttons just to switch on/off an EQ on Mid, and on Side so you can hear they are affected independently

I tested as standalone => it works perfectly

I tested as VSTi in Pro Tools (via Bluecat Patchwork) AND compared to another M/S plugin (Brainworx bx_meter) placed on the same track, just after my M/S plugin, in order to solo the two signals => it works perfectly with NO difference between the two plugins

The EQs are NOT affecting each other in any possible way, in Hise, Standalone, and VSTi...

The Hise version I am using is in my signature

Here is the snippet I used, exactly the one I used, with no modifications:

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I don't say this is the best way to achieve M/S, but sure it works

Jay

@ustk for me it only works as standalone but not plugin

Lindon

is everybody on the same platform? @ustk seems to be on MacOS

orange

@ustk @Jay said in How to make Mid-Side processing?:

@ustk for me it only works as standalone but not plugin

Ok I found the cause. I deleted the master routing matrix 11-12 and 13-14 lines (only set to 1-2) and put 2 routers for those channels to link 1-2 at the end of the chain. It works on windows for fx plugins now :) For Fx plugins, you need to put Router in the fx chain, do not wire lines on the master router matrix. It can work on instruments but it doesn't work on fx plugins. Now there you go ;)

QUICK TIP: If the main VU meters on the Hise interface (right top) isn't active, that means your output won't work even it sounds in Hise (for fx plugins). In previous snippets, Hise master vu meters aren't picking. But now, after puting routers, they do.

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How to make Mid-Side processing?

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