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    • JayJ
      Jay @ustk
      last edited by

      @ustk said in How to make Mid-Side processing?:

      @Jay It is working as expected for me once exported...

      Can you post your snippet that's working so I can exported in my end to see if it works here, then I can double check my scripts.

      Thanks in advance......

      Joansi Villalona

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      • ustkU
        ustk
        last edited by ustk

        I am using the last one I posted 4 days ago for testing the export (because the current I have today is modified a bit)

        Can't help pressing F5 in the forum...

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        • JayJ
          Jay @ustk
          last edited by

          @ustk i exported that one and is not working

          Joansi Villalona

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          • orangeO
            orange @orange
            last edited by orange

            @orange said in How to make Mid-Side processing?:

            @ustk said in How to make Mid-Side processing?:

            @Jay It is working as expected for me once exported...

            I experience this problems, you can try and see it on Hise too (no need to export).

            • When you insert a Parametric EQ after the MS Encode, and set it 9-10 (side); If the positive gain eq band is active, sides effected as expected. But if you cut or give negative gain to the band, sides are not effecting! That's weird.

            • In contrary, when you set the Parametric EQ to 7-8 (mid); If you cut or give the negative gain to the eq band, mids are effected as expected. But if you add a positive gain to the eq band, mids and sides are effected simultaneously. Mids and Sides should process independantly, shouldn't they?

            It is not working properly as expected from a M/S process. I don't know maybe that occurs because of the 0.707 number or other thing.

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            @ustk did you try that, see the issue?

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            macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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            • ustkU
              ustk
              last edited by ustk

              @orange It is working just fine on my side
              Here is a new snippet, with some improvements (solo, typo corrections for the channel names in the comments, level corrected)

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              for info, the *0.707 is here to compensate the fact my Mid and Side are going each into 2 channels, so we need a -3dB (sqrt(2)) in order to compensate that, nothing else... I think it can be done in a better way, because I am the opposite of a code guru 😀
              But because of the routing I chose, this the way to proceed (for me again)
              When you think about it, in a DAW, this is the same thing, but it just happens under the hood, just behind the Pan Law of your DAW. When you set your Stereo Pan to mono, the DAW compensate automatically by -3dB (but the value can be DAW dependent, even customized sometimes)

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              • orangeO
                orange @ustk
                last edited by

                @ustk Did you try the Parametric EQ and see the issues that I wrote?

                develop Branch / XCode 13.1
                macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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                • ustkU
                  ustk
                  last edited by

                  @orange This is what I said above, "It is working just fine on my side" 😉
                  The last snippet has two PAR EQ, when I solo M or S, everything works, boost AND cut, and they're not modifying each other...

                  Can't help pressing F5 in the forum...

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                  • JayJ
                    Jay @ustk
                    last edited by

                    @ustk the problem I'm facing is no audio coming out

                    Joansi Villalona

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                    • orangeO
                      orange @ustk
                      last edited by

                      @ustk Thanks man, I will try the latest snippet deeply,
                      Best....

                      develop Branch / XCode 13.1
                      macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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                      • orangeO
                        orange @ustk
                        last edited by orange

                        @ustk said in How to make Mid-Side processing?:

                        @orange This is what I said above, "It is working just fine on my side" 😉
                        The last snippet has two PAR EQ, when I solo M or S, everything works, boost AND cut, and they're not modifying each other...

                        I used the latest snippet directly, without editing. I faced same issue with @Jay , there is no sound in the exported plugin. Also nomally this snippet weirdly works but when I compile the GUI, sound becomes zero. LR gain sets zero, also Mid button on the GUI, is not working. You can try and see the issue with importing your snippet (not from project file)

                        develop Branch / XCode 13.1
                        macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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                        • JayJ
                          Jay @orange
                          last edited by

                          @orange I was starting to believe that it was me doing it wrong, but I guess not

                          Joansi Villalona

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                          • ustkU
                            ustk
                            last edited by

                            I thought the snippet I posted didn't have the MS button sorry, just don't use it because I haven't fully connected it so it behaves weirdly…
                            Did you add a wav in the sampler?
                            When you export to standalone, does it work?

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                            • JayJ
                              Jay @ustk
                              last edited by

                              @ustk it didn't work.

                              Is this supposed to a VSTi or VST (Instrument or Plugin)?

                              Joansi Villalona

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                              • JayJ
                                Jay
                                last edited by

                                I think we'll need an intervention from the master @Christoph-Hart

                                Joansi Villalona

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                                • ustkU
                                  ustk
                                  last edited by

                                  A VSTi if you have a sampler inside obviously...
                                  Please try standalone first, that's the easiest…
                                  I honestly don't understand why it doesn't work for you guys, it is just routings and a sampler, there no reason something weird is happening in that part

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                                  • JayJ
                                    Jay @ustk
                                    last edited by

                                    @ustk but why don't you post your working snippet?

                                    Joansi Villalona

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                                    • ustkU
                                      ustk
                                      last edited by

                                      Hum… I did it approximately 5 times in this thread… and all of them are working for me, in Hise and once exported. Do you think I am giving you something that doesn't work while I am working with something else?

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                                      • JayJ
                                        Jay @ustk
                                        last edited by

                                        @ustk I can confirm only the mid work in standalone but no the sides, but I think we don't need it to work as an instrument we need it as a plugin.

                                        Joansi Villalona

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                                        • orangeO
                                          orange
                                          last edited by orange

                                          I think @ustk code is ok, but there is a weird bug that we can't find yet.

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                                          • ustkU
                                            ustk
                                            last edited by

                                            Ok...
                                            I replaced the sampler for a synth with stereo content, so you don't need to care of the source anymore...
                                            I added 2 buttons just to switch on/off an EQ on Mid, and on Side so you can hear they are affected independently

                                            I tested as standalone => it works perfectly

                                            I tested as VSTi in Pro Tools (via Bluecat Patchwork) AND compared to another M/S plugin (Brainworx bx_meter) placed on the same track, just after my M/S plugin, in order to solo the two signals => it works perfectly with NO difference between the two plugins

                                            The EQs are NOT affecting each other in any possible way, in Hise, Standalone, and VSTi...

                                            The Hise version I am using is in my signature

                                            Here is the snippet I used, exactly the one I used, with no modifications:

                                            HiseSnippet 2936.3oc6brDaaibkx1zwRNJa1Eo.6g1hoF6A4lXGQ43eMHqUjjcpQkh0J5MevtAIzTirHLEGExgNwaP.xkBzy81dqW6kdom5o568RA1i8R.JvtW5gbomSmYHo3PJJYI43D4Tpf.648Yl27l2uYz3opIREZYgLERjb2iZCERbQQ4iLvMK1TQyPX6RBI9LwJaW5wxaWZSvyPlGnYruPgiZqXYAqKjHwj2gRWhjSIv97lMJnnqXnB8AIHbOjlJrrVKMrOzp4+cZ55aoTGtqVKNpuQ9sUQFEQ5HahLMoXVg1JpGnrO7tJTxlPTHwzaVWCiLkwJXnkPhoJfpejbSzyLbn+dZVZ6oCoMjDjIcjC3sP50oRLEpPwlZ50q5M2sDDRHV0WSLoil3JhUzpq0AtuF4xLD.eN30GIlnehmDu3kcvEuDbh2TNh2mJJqZp0F6igJayJtsAFZ1PgrDvKVNzJLwpWPrHhPgAdwVJG.2xjznCGYVIa1qAVNa14uY5ToSQVHrvfCULAUjoKyfaAX1FKtODuYiFPUbl4pHCnnlixgO8xUrIcYTzKCXnBQekdRekHoW1hn3ht6oXlqK4WqNUUW.SmCdyeBaEQsZiLHMHCTGRBOVZ0gmDybzz8Xu4WE8DayuJ7HEMkxdTR+20uNf3NRf.JTMcJMCcMCHngsgJVCY.PFjowlOsPapXZhzyn5IiWiLB51v4Sm5EoSkjHSKZAwdFHY9UNHIiwKI+umJHZOO27TNc6+hJ556Q7OyDdf8DWl.yhczSIlp6F.QVdDDYuttWxbng1Wn8E8cJuCUg2CUs6Z9IH5ZM.YbZSaAHe3rWnR18nHyv75.teb73nHuMFapsGwIHCw2jQCqKbbY5CAxQSvBRY4ng5szCRRk7k.ntED7h92gbhTOkYRecBlVc7d5o0UPcMm+.aMhZi0KqqQcUxePCsH0uYaP86IpxF8EokhXI5jMJ5yB9ocULPPvd6vE85H++3V9tKBC2wHy7odQpjodYWXZzHJTtcsNzLJrz5ML6CaYLrasGzzy3vkNRZ2f40E6cdc9xNTcTUbDhL11PCuSanQux1K3peI48m1UnHjhYY8ujaVeYchpzTPijbWjVNh.SZ4q5RX.XcZQ5JxPvaAaLFYv38hh99GiVOjVjydXz5hjht4cFM1SI5kBHB9+5sKofUnEe4tdPViZCMwZzk+DkfGRpp0oTrjhkfVGfQsERLSGGBhF5DVxdt+vsX9i7arZ91dVCa6LGAkgGB0IkBaRpBl3guMasiU5cKTcWIPUaOBMs3KG+gG2R447SJKLrsr124MQ+Se+2+21vxtQCsmSEJP8BD9qWWGVEYoQcK74M2wBCzTy0jxeTeUy9N2jG6laSOXl7bi8lbyvW804elVcbSe.2OeSn19M417Sw7C13EzAwe.A57pz6MrC3rX2823LfaoiTvjs0sqFI7EcX+DQdPR7yzOmefak20wvwKHMaaQxjMtQVeE1aeuMwkbZBsukxfFF1xG5+332FBZNdvLmOhk.I21KEBNCe8SCOCeR6SwLLG+LzjaF95VgUslcoZQAUBWVrnsEF0RFhoc+6J8vD+4DTEA.LWISsCI6G52.vl1vq4.hEJJ.ncrwsswA.Uf3J.MoNHA.KqzpsNrFIoV.v2QGsmhdgpUBRL1DpP7B2uBwyLH8lJsapoVCZPBDPHHHapJ5vsTTIoOCBmnpH94EKF.J63BtcKjsAthsNVqstVnIbQcnhI0XKDmNykxHUEp+cHczd1cK0bBVYMKp95abJAO6hKeMueaUueUx6mKlqCnNzki9iGQsUGLea+LWbgJKwY7ATBY7I7ftL9t8.FHgKOWOhh7jSdzdU97BceLDWVjnUs0UvAOgDZ7aWDzPs7GEA83FLHgfOh+XiNSN1jAUb+TwpZX0lQKuSDg7RJJ3rVdmzKnpyw.3KrSIt0CF0SbJ5CDKaTm3zk5VVRJVCQ1M.Y3cViKWCT2l3cRb2f.ofxzjAkoIGLYJBUBcHoAbTH6EgX69KtqcKmTLDMhgAY2Ojj6ItDMGmS6rz1zUHYRnHViI7QJQamvEIqwj9HyQa+VxGJxNMbQtDOxkBg7F7HuQHjKyib4PHWgG4JgPtJOxUCgbMdjqEB457HWODRor7X8a4gVJ.ZovnCnljBqmjBnn7aILjlS4FaMmlpelShwlSu2MmbirmxqXuG3dP3UjAaZnR2BQTGD9ElPryd+aaBIa+.tKpptxQYr5TQz0.6oiTOfVyTWmWf61XJPIHipqwy7odgS0.W+5df9lrOB7qAYuYWvk3gS+v9kNny8HvU8aszi.e4W52bkGcSVmAJe0ZfaAp.zL.qlNXGrBq+Wb0rqFf0UYr57gdXxLVAJF0AqAVXo5Eb5kP80xz9ZAIeN69CouVnVH1tQf4vxAmCq0YNr.cNHSEj0C0AqE8bX8fyAGVYyAorrIwPcvNhiOwV3s76J1BGxbd405YrkIcQFYrkobQFYrEQWjQFaYZWjQFa4BtHiL1xLtHiL1RRWjiGwV5b7aizQ.wGZJoGxh1lGRp+lEYZZQ528SfRLIVJaooiglVdq5ETXlD9mODEfTG.+g+JCPNeJlgAXofeUrrkXO.WN+G3zndp5HM06rNDko9Ghznito94yzn8vVU9TZqdrLJ1Vc7sjuyQgk4rUuPm6phFsVs63s2X5Qky9Jv5yUTQPnDjTlGOf6G7jOdX9HtDKuyrGSL0.epDrKcw4lSQ4yDYJ1ySBLag+7i.eYwpJiCFDwY++nK6e+hn57EzEGQMNhZbD03HpwQTOsQTkiqQMNhZbD03Hpw65+cVD03ZTiinFGQMNhZbD0S8MwXVwcQ.m+PpFmtDF+eokzE8UBcaIkl6lnLtladFwHrjBlZ9gGGmZNN0bbp43Tyejcq1tn2s2I5.po8POr2psRvddq19iINatUaoRxeuxtZfanE+MyRJK8pYQuWYWUFbKPY5MyRRJcpjo45g0GraSlLOOqFXTWOznJ4MpKPG0ZrQMWnQUJamKS1M68nRuN8DuV5UP041vkjeT5zAwWvrOltfYo7zBQ6lOqG5wuKXVuORjx0XOLCw0cEW2UbcWiU0cM5Ajiq65C5EgP9jhnFeHywQTiinFuS1wvHpuuKwkyr6JNlcyJdekCgrW2JlE2Oi0tAxrE3NPCnI0dTpOAW+mC5SKW6A9okaGULQD10TwvpMxBJwadGBG2sW+M+8RPrsAO4z.+TP4BD5mv+VjomD+ymfGPNJ+44ItdA5LR6.8TEMtGnfWuwlFJDGKYHY1TeGKUxjkp63E9p15VPVDHIdF8AmiGb37OC8e.wmCeQ8d+8Wx9jCl3dBO5eI8jQmxR1z3PnNYmhcxN1PwVG6AM3e7rUPFn1MQFZp71T0fjHr6uOLfcSjSnaiwJpG3C4J4qA0gJVbtVeQ9xZFz2jAmGrkQQWHM35h9sd84hNhKf56C933EHXxyau.AitI+jcWI9LhEahLssbqB2oQvDEzS0zU0jeok9gM3K593e4u+eswVPX887MhYDEpT82rwY12uoXjEwLwoZag7KTy5nntfSQxtesareOnZhAh5WTF1fKe4b46fnVvmWjuHumhimi4+1epiBkmgWck+xOsQYzypRFvsLgO0+OVweH+uUqKnBkxGJu1tvVsQjBDT+nXUwMh8kbiXWCdHzbO2bJNf.NvBYKiPs3dEqN9+l4+rQIkVsou6tcrd+2abeH14JOwaQadDOrmznwOtQn8e9lMHqAvuCxEnl8NYctUK2+b2DCrwu8zblnRhOIpyl8MIz+8Mkn+6aRn+eCfI59a.rkhpI5wpNegRzLhyvfPrsLXO.1IEqPaCj7dvBo1esHEO+XUUZl4EHVfQyQtglikFZNtwPywxCMGqLzbr5PywZ8gC5NUtsMF0xIlBAP0Mcdq5R3rwLV3Eg+GHTg3yA
                                            

                                            I don't say this is the best way to achieve M/S, but sure it works

                                            Can't help pressing F5 in the forum...

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