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    • griffinboyG
      griffinboy @clevername27
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      @clevername27

      Something I'm thinking of is combining Prism, with reassignment method.
      Using reassignment to increase accuracy in the time domain as a post process.

      Have you looked at this, it's ridiculous:

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      Control group news: Prism

      This Control Group news article is a spotlight on work from the Advanced Instrumentation Research Group on prism, an Ultra-Precise FFT calculation.

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      (eng.ox.ac.uk)

      I think they've patented it now, but I do have an old matlab project from two years ago where they created an early unoptimized version.

      This wouldn't be for real time, but would surely be an amazing for frequency accuracy.

      Overkill maybe? And way beyond my ability, but pretty interesting. Most resynthesis misses a ton of partials due to the fft method used to analyse the signal. But they always claim that these frequencies aren't important to perception. So maybe I'd be wasting a ton of effort xD
      Stuff like Loris already sounds good perceptually. And perhaps insane resolution isn't a good thing: how are you going to group and track all those partials?

      I should probably give in and just use Loris... But for some reason I love going through the pain of doing dsp from scratch.

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      • DabDabD
        DabDab @griffinboy
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        @griffinboy said in [Free dsp] C++ FFT:

        Ah I forgot that we had an fft expert here!

        @clevername27 Any getting started FFT video like your above image?
        Every day I open up computer and think today I will learn new things. Will watch more videos on HISE. But sadly we have very few Video authors.

        Bollywood Music Producer and Trance Producer.

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        • griffinboyG
          griffinboy @DabDab
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          @DabDab

          Most dsp is shared via papers.

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          • clevername27C
            clevername27 @griffinboy
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            • clevername27C
              clevername27 @DabDab
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              @DabDab @griffinboy I appreciate the questions. To my knowledge, SpectraLayers is only software that does real-time FFTs like this, based mostly on brilliant work by creator Robin Lobel. The good news is if you want to simply do a 3D waterfall FFT (or Wavelet) display, the internet (including YouTube) is overflowing with how-tos, tutorials and walktlhoughts. Everything you need is readily available in HISEscript, and I can imagine it being more 100 lines of code at the most (50 if you're @Christoph-Hart).

              I will divulge one secret from my own research: Remember that when drawing FFT or Wavelet-derived visualisations, few users (if any) know precisely what the graph should look like. In other words, you can lie to them. It's faster. "But what about processing that data?" Same answer. The user rarely knows precisely what it should sound like. (That being said, everything Robin is doing in SL is exactly correct.)

              One other: Run your FFTs on the graphics card.

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              • clevername27C
                clevername27 @griffinboy
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                @griffinboy said in [Free dsp] C++ FFT:

                Most dsp is shared via papers.

                This.

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                  clevername27 @griffinboy
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                  • clevername27C
                    clevername27 @mmprod
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                    @mmprod said in [Free dsp] C++ FFT:

                    What C++ libraries do you recommend?

                    If you're not doing on the graphics card, the best base-level algorithm (for my money) is FFTW.

                    Remember that at their heart, FFTs are very, very simple.

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                    • clevername27C
                      clevername27 @DabDab
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                      @DabDab

                      @clevername27 Any getting started FFT video like your above image?
                      Every day I open up computer and think today I will learn new things. Will watch more videos on HISE. But sadly we have very few Video authors.

                      I think there's some words missing here — can you please re-state?

                      I will continue to drop videos (especially since I asked for the forum to be upgraded so I could). My videos me sharing all the code from my plugin, in bite-sized chunks. (You can thank @d-healey for inspiring me to do this.)

                      For instructional videos, @d-healey is the GOAT, and I would humbly suggest (if you haven't already) subbing to his Patreon (as I did when I started).


                      Regarding FFTs, I realise they may seem like a specific area of writing plugins, but FFTs (specifically DFTs) could be described as the foundation for all plugins (depending on your metrics).

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                      • mmprodM
                        mmprod @clevername27
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                        @clevername27 @DabDab a “getting started” video on fft c++ could be very helpful for beginners who have never done this sort of implementation (like me). And often the content in videos is less dense than what you find in papers/easier to understand.

                        There are plenty of videos on fft theory already but for me it would be extremely helpful to have some sort of walkthrough on how to use a specific fft library(such as fftw), how to code a simple example algorithm, and perhaps how to import to scriptnode.

                        For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
                        John 3:16

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                        • clevername27C
                          clevername27 @mmprod
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                          @mmprod Got ya. Hopefully, once I've got our new album out the door, I can return to this and do something like that for you guys.

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                          • mmprodM
                            mmprod @clevername27
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                            @clevername27 that would be amazing- thanks so much!

                            New album coming out??

                            For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
                            John 3:16

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                            • clevername27C
                              clevername27 @mmprod
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                              @mmprod Yep! We haven't announced it yet, so…well, if you know who I am, you probably know who it is. HISE will be on it! 👻

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